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Posted 2021-February-04, 02:45



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North leads the 2, playing 4th highest leads and South plays the 10. Best line?

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Our opponents faced this problem, from a teams match last night. I can't comment on the bidding.
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Posted 2021-February-04, 12:13

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Posted 2021-February-04, 13:25

View Postnige1, on 2021-February-04, 12:13, said:

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Actually the play of cards to tricks 1 and 2 gives away the show.
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Posted 2021-February-04, 14:03

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Posted 2021-February-04, 16:32

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Posted 2021-February-05, 06:34

The actual hand was:



The winning line on this layout is to win the second heart, play the ace of diamonds and when the ten doesn't fall, play a second round to eliminate the suit. The exit in hearts and if South wins, he will have to give us an entry to dummy. If North wins and shifts to a club, dummy plays low and South must play low to avoid the endplay, but declarer can cash the nine of hearts before crossing to dummy with the nine of diamonds and running the spades. If North wins and put declarer back in with the heart, declarer crosses to dummy with the diamond and succeeds when the spades divide 4-4.
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Posted 2021-February-05, 06:40

View Postnige1, on 2021-February-04, 12:13, said:

Perhaps better, however, is to win A at trick one, cash A and lead a , hoping for a blockage e.g. LHO having been dealt K732.



Declarer tried leading towards the K. He lost three hearts and five clubs for -500!


View Postshyams, on 2021-February-04, 13:25, said:

South should play the Jack at trick 2. When it is ducked


Yes, I agree with this.
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Posted 2021-February-05, 09:47

View PostTramticket, on 2021-February-05, 06:34, said:

The winning line on this layout is to win the second heart, play the ace of diamonds and when the ten doesn't fall, play a second round to eliminate the suit. The exit in hearts and if South wins, he will have to give us an entry to dummy. If North wins and shifts to a club, dummy plays low and South must play low to avoid the endplay, but declarer can cash the nine of hearts before crossing to dummy with the nine of diamonds and running the spades. If North wins and put declarer back in with the heart, declarer crosses to dummy with the diamond and succeeds when the spades divide 4-4.


It's a neat problem and a sensible line, but on the actual layout I don't think it matters whether you duck the first heart or whether you play a second round of diamonds to eliminate the suit: the important thing is to pull south's diamond and exit in hearts.
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Posted 2021-February-05, 15:11

TramTicket 'The actual hand was: The winning line on this layout is to win the second heart, play the ace of diamonds and when the ten doesn't fall, play a second round to eliminate the suit. The exit in hearts and if South wins, he will have to give us an entry to dummy. If North wins and shifts to a club, dummy plays low and South must play low to avoid the endplay, but declarer can cash the nine of hearts before crossing to dummy with the nine of diamonds and running the spades. If North wins and put declarer back in with the heart, declarer crosses to dummy with the diamond and succeeds when the spades divide 4-4.'
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Thank you for a an interesting problem, TramTicket. On the actual layout, the winning line requires declarer to rely on s breaking 4-4 , as well as favourable and positions.
Unless self-kibitzing, IMO, it seems better to win the 1st playing for LHO to hold A and either K732 or KQ732.

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Posted 2021-February-05, 23:55

Practical line:

Win the first or second heart.
Cash the AK.
If someone discards a spade, assume spades are 4-4 and enter dummy with the 9.
Else assume spades are 5-3 or worse and exit in hearts.
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Posted 2021-February-06, 03:00

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-05, 23:55, said:

Practical line: Win the first or second heart.Cash the AK. If someone discards a spade, assume spades are 4-4 and enter dummy with the 9. Else assume spades are 5-3 or worse and exit in hearts.

If declarer adopts Nullve's line, he must win the first to avoid end-playing dummy. After cashing A, AK9, AKQJ6 (s oblige by splitting 4-4) and then exiting in s, defenders are playing double-dummy and declarer must still guess s.
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Posted 2021-February-06, 03:05

Sorry, thought the contract was 3NT... :(
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