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Posted 2021-February-02, 20:48

Instant MP tournament.



What goes through your mind at this point?
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Posted 2021-February-02, 21:09

The thing(s) that goes through my mind are (in order):
  • Why bid 2 in an instant tourney with a partner that may not understand your bidding?
  • I hate bidding 2 with humans because they always do this stuff - especially in an instant tourney
  • I bet East was a robot
  • 4 : West probably has 5332 and east probably has 3343
  • North probably has a very weak hand
  • I should pass


People do disruptive stuff much more in Instant tourneys because of the time pressure it puts ops under. I do the same thing myself in 5 minute Chess where it's much more effective because if they run out of time, they lose.
So my next thought is:
I should stop playing Bridge like a Chess player.

One thing I always do in instant tourneys is to look quickly at each profile to see what kind of bids they are likely to understand.
I have bid the unusual 4NT with a pick-up partner but would not do it in an 'instant'.
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Posted 2021-February-03, 02:02


Nullve 'Instant MP tournament. What goes through your mind at this point?
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1. It would be easier had you opened 1.
2. But 2 is perfectly reasonable.
3. Now you can double (T/O) and convert partner's 4 to 4.

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Posted 2021-February-03, 02:11

View Postpilowsky, on 2021-February-02, 21:09, said:

The thing(s) that goes through my mind are (in order):
  • Why bid 2 in an instant tourney with a partner that may not understand your bidding?
  • I hate bidding 2 with humans because they always do this stuff - especially in an instant tourney
  • I bet East was a robot
  • 4 : West probably has 5332 and east probably has 3343
  • North probably has a very weak hand
  • I should pass


1. I was planning to rebid 2N. (3 is just suicide.)
2.,3. Instant tournaments on BBO are robot tournaments.
4., 5. :)
6. I'm not sure what your advanced(?) robot partner would do then, but when I uploaded the deal to a teaching table and passed 3 as South, my basic robot partner

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Posted 2021-February-03, 02:29

View Postnige1, on 2021-February-03, 02:02, said:


Nullve 'Instant MP tournament. What goes through your mind at this point?
++++++++++++++++++++
1. It would be easier had you opened 1.
2. But 2 is perfectly reasonable.
3. Now you can double (T/O) and convert partner's 4 to 4.


1.,2. I would have opened 1 with a human 2/1 partner unless we had special agreements like

2(strong)-2(waiting); 3 = GF, 4H5+D

3. If you double,

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Posted 2021-February-03, 05:32

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-03, 02:29, said:

If you double ...
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Posted 2021-February-03, 15:09

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-03, 02:11, said:

1. I was planning to rebid 2N. (3 is just suicide.)
2.,3. Instant tournaments on BBO are robot tournaments.
4., 5. :)
6. I'm not sure what your advanced(?) robot partner would do then, but when I uploaded the deal to a teaching table and passed 3 as South, my basic robot partner

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My mistake. I thought you meant the 30s per decision free tournaments.
These tournaments are contaminated by actual people.

Mind you I'm still having trouble understanding the constant cavilling and complaining about inconsistent robots. I sometimes wonder if the people kvetching querulously about robots spend any time playing with people at and below my standard.
Amongst the totality of bridge players, I'm probably somewhere in the middle.
I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to play with me as a partner - even on a desert island - unless you really enjoy alliteration and bad jokes.

I've only ever tried the weekly free - it seemed pointless because you can play the hands over and over again until you get it 'right'. I suppose this explains why they aren't listed on the competitive menu.
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Posted 2021-February-03, 17:44

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-03, 02:29, said:

3. If you double,

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I should add that if you were playing with a basic robot instead, then

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Posted 2021-February-04, 02:23

View Postpilowsky, on 2021-February-03, 21:03, said:

How would you rate them using the same terminology generally applied to players on BBO. (The answer is not idiots Posted Image)

As Advanced, although I'm not sure a BBO robot, whether basic or advanced, is "someone who has been consistently successful in clubs and minor tournaments". :)

Maybe it's time to reveal that I didn't start this thread because of anything stupid GiB did.

Does


remind you (the reader) of anything?
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Posted 2021-February-04, 13:39

Pass is probably OK, as "dbl and correct clubs to diamonds" doesn't work with robots.

4 is also possible but we won't find hearts, then, even if partner has five of them.

As for not opening 2 with a human: I think the robots are quite human in that respect.
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Posted 2021-February-04, 14:42

View Posthelene_t, on 2021-February-04, 13:39, said:

4 is also possible but we won't find hearts, then, even if partner has five of them.

If you choose to bid 4:

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Posted 2021-February-05, 02:33

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-04, 02:23, said:

Does


remind you (the reader) of anything?

It reminded me of a certain infamous deal.
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Posted 2021-February-05, 13:03

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-05, 02:33, said:

It reminded me of a certain infamous deal.

I suspect if anyone had a clue what you were talking about, they would have replied by now, so you might want to get to the point :)
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Posted 2021-February-05, 13:33

View Postsmerriman, on 2021-February-05, 13:03, said:

I suspect if anyone had a clue what you were talking about, they would have replied by now, so you might want to get to the point :)

Ok. :)

https://www.bridgeba...40621-good-bid/
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Posted 2021-February-05, 14:53

View Postsmerriman, on 2021-February-05, 13:03, said:

I suspect if anyone had a clue what you were talking about, they would have replied by now, so you might want to get to the point :)

Presumably the famous hand where a pro player jumped to 6D on a four-card suit in a mostly blind auction, rather than bidding their long suit. Of course, 6D was the only making slam.

I'm not bidding 6H here though.
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Posted 2021-February-06, 00:36

View Postsfi, on 2021-February-05, 14:53, said:

I'm not bidding 6H here though.

I couldn't resist:



Good bridge (e.g. double) wasn't rewarded this time. At one table:


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Posted 2021-February-12, 06:16

Robot Rebate 55 %
Board 12 of 12
52.7 % so far


5 = "3+ ; 7- HCP"

Edit (after sfi posted): Your choices are:

P = "No suitable call --"
X = "2+ "
5 = "Overcall -- 5+ ; 17+ total points"
5N: undefined
6 = "Overcall -- strong rebiddable ; 32+ total points"
6 = "Overcall -- strong rebiddable ; 32+ total points"
6 = "Strong two suiter -- 2- losers"
6 = "Overcall -- strong rebiddable ; 32+ total points"
6NT = 33-34 HCP"
7 = "31+ HCP; strong rebiddable ; 35+ total points"
6 = "31+ HCP; strong rebiddable ; 35+ total points"
6 = "Strong two suiter -- 1- losers"
6 = "31+ HCP; strong rebiddable ; 35+ total points"
6NT = 36+ HCP; 35+ total points"
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Posted 2021-February-12, 07:56

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Robot Rebate 55 %
Board 12 of 12
52.7 % so far

You're enjoying this, aren't you?
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Posted 2021-February-12, 09:10

View Postsfi, on 2021-February-12, 07:56, said:

You're enjoying this, aren't you?

Yes, but see Edit of my previous post.
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Posted 2021-February-12, 21:40

View Postnullve, on 2021-February-06, 00:36, said:





Declarer's lucky robot didn't re-correct to 7 clubs. Or more.
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