[sceptic]

I was reading a book on card play and this came up in the section about Jettison play (defined in the book as) a discard that is made for the purpose of unblocking (usually the jettison card is an honour), this info is here to help you look in the right place for the answer, I had the info available so it is only fair you do as well

it took me 6 minutes to work this out before checking the answer (I never seem to get that much thinking time at the table) (note) I read this book two years ago and it never really made any sense to me at the time, but we digress, I will tell you the book after a few of you have had a go, as I think the book is even better on the second read

so if you have 10 mins to spare and (in my opinion) you will see something quite smart, have a go your self.

The contract is 7 hearts and the opening lead is the K diamonds.

Scoring: IMP

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West North East South

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If you like this there are loads of good hands I could post here for you all to try and I can type the answers from the book (hope the author does not sue me for copyright hehehe)

[inquiry]

sceptic, on Jun 8 2005, 03:49 PM, said:

(hope the author does not sue me for copyright hehehe)

The author (or publisher or whoever the copyright holder is) might not sue you, but I will surely delete the post and raise your warning level if you persist in posting copyrighted material...and delete the post as well. We will consider this singlehand "fair use". But you should tell us where this is from so we can buy the book if we are interested. Other moderators may think this is over the line and delete the entire thread.

Ben

[Elianna]

Justin is correct, a hand cannot be copyrighted, but analysis of the hand can. So Ben is also correct, that you shouldn't post someone's whole hand analysis.

However, I'm sure that if enough people answer, there will be a correct answer of what should be done. Also, if there was a particularly humorous quote, you could post that (with attribution), but there is a fine line between quoting a line, and quoting the analysis (if you see what I mean).

Anyway, there's a bunch of sites on the web if you want to know more about copyrights, and what's legal to post where.

[inquiry]

sceptic, on Jun 8 2005, 04:01 PM, said:

hm, well you could just ask me not to post any more in private, but if you want to make a public statement so be it, delete the post

No, like I said this is probably easily fair use. It is true that a hand can not be copyrighted, but a series of hands taken from a book could VERY EASILY violate a copyright. I would like to leave this if it is ok with you.. since several others have fallen into this take hands from other sources and post them. This will serve as a good reminder of the rules of htis site (which includes, no posting of copyrighted material without the copyright holders permission).

Ben

[luke warm]

Spoiler

win the diamond and take 2 rounds of trumps to see how they break.. you'll can cash 2 spades if trumps are 2/2, else 1 spade and draw last trump with ♥A.. toss as many spades as you have left on the clubs, discard diamonds on the good spades

[david_c]

Funnily enough, I actually made a jettison play at the table this evening - my first ever - and I think it's quite pretty (and totally original!), so I thought you might like to see it:

Scoring: MP

4♥ by South
Lead: ♣x

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The ♣K lost to the ace, and a club was returned, which I ruffed. Then I drew trumps (LHO had three) and took a winning diamond finesse. Then I cashed the ♦A on which RHO showed out. So now LHO has K9 left in diamonds, and I have

Scoring: MP

4♥ by South
Lead: ♣x

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I can make all but one of the remaining tricks by simply giving up a trick to one of the kings. But if the spade finesse is right I can get an extra overtrick: so I ruffed a diamond and took the spade finesse. Unfortunately that lost, but the play didn't cost because on RHO's club return I can ruff and pitch the ace of spades, leaving my hand good.

OK, this is too good to be true - actually I didn't have the ♠9. But RHO had pitched a spade from a four-card suit on one of the trumps, so it worked anyway

[HeartA]

Spoiler

I have 6H+1D+2C. So even 4 tricks on spades would be enough. Win whatever lead (DK? If the lead was C, pitch a spade), and cash HKQ. If H were 2-2, I have a claim (unblock S and H to ace). When H were 3-1, I cashed ONE spade, and H to ace and pitch S on C ...

[ArcLight]

With Sceptics hint it took me 51 seconds. Without the hint I dont know...

As for hands being copywrited I read a story (perhaps written by Mike Lawrence) where (I think) Easley Blackwwod wrote an article with a neat hand (but he couldnt remember where he got it from). His arch rival (perhaps Culberson?) complained that that hand was from one of HIS published articles (and it was!). Blackwood was ashamed, but then found the original hand, and it predated Culberston, and was by a different author. So both had used someone elses hand. Culbertson replied "Touche".



Anyway, what book is it from? It seems familiar. Perhaps Fred Karpins "Strategy at Trick One"?

[Gerben42]

If something is over the line, move the line.

Anyway I think sceptic should tell us what the book is called, no way anything like this should result in deletion of a thread.

[xx1943]

Hi Wayne

knowing the technique you can find this solution at the table too in a few seconds:
You need spades 4/1 or better and hearts 3/1 or better.

Spoiler

Take the lead, play 1 round of spades, play 3 rounds of hearts ending in dummy and discard 2 high spades on club A and K, discard your diamonds on dummy high spades

and claim 14 tricks

Regards

Al