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How to bid this hand? Defence against Multi 2 Diamonds

#1 User is offline   Dinarius 

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Posted 2020-December-03, 03:07



Here is my hand and the bidding.

At the point where I now have to bid again, I bid 5, partner bid 6 and 7 is cold. As is 7 and 7

We play exclusion RKCB, and I considered 5, instead of 5. I know we haven't agreed a suit. But, it cannot be anything but asking for Aces outside of Hearts, I think. When he now bids 6 (=2), I could now have bid 7 or 7. I think Spades is safer and we were playing MPs.

What do you do against Multi with this?

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Posted 2020-December-03, 04:11

2-P-2-P-P-4 is a huge hand with clubs and spades (forcing) much like 2-4 is leaping michaels, follow up with 5.
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Posted 2020-December-03, 04:14

View PostDinarius, on 2020-December-03, 03:07, said:



Here is my hand and the bidding.

At the point where I now have to bid again, I bid 5, partner bid 6 and 7 is cold. As is 7 and 7

We play exclusion RKCB, and I considered 5, instead of 5. I know we haven't agreed a suit. But, it cannot be anything but asking for Aces outside of Hearts, I think. When he now bids 6 (=2), I could now have bid 7 or 7. I think Spades is safer and we were playing MPs.

What do you do against Multi with this?

Thanks.

D.


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Posted 2020-December-03, 04:15

View PostCyberyeti, on 2020-December-03, 04:11, said:

2-P-2-P-P-4 is a huge hand with clubs and spades much like 2-4 is leaping michaels, follow up with 5.

What is your system over (2)-P-(P)?
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Posted 2020-December-03, 04:25

View Postnullve, on 2020-December-03, 04:15, said:

What is your system over (2)-P-(P)?


This happens extremely rarely in the UK, obviously you can't do this if it's a weak only multi (which I assumed the OP would have stated and not passed), you double first, but if it's weak or strong (as most are here) I think I've only seen 2 passed out in 40+ years, and one of those was after a long pause by the hand over the multi.
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Posted 2020-December-03, 04:41

View PostCyberyeti, on 2020-December-03, 04:25, said:

This happens extremely rarely in the UK, obviously you can't do this if it's a weak only multi (which I assumed the OP would have stated and not passed), you double first, but if it's weak or strong (as most are here) I think I've only seen 2 passed out in 40+ years, and one of those was after a long pause by the hand over the multi.


Most? It seems to me that weak-only multis are rapidly gaining in popularity.
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Posted 2020-December-03, 04:54

Thanks for the replies.

I should have added that if my partner's 2NT is A only, I'm down after my 5 Exclusion enquiry coz it's useless to me.

So, maybe not a good MP % bid?

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Posted 2020-December-03, 05:55

View PostVampyr, on 2020-December-03, 04:41, said:

Most? It seems to me that weak-only multis are rapidly gaining in popularity.


Maybe in London, here in Norfolk not quite unknown but very rare.
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Posted 2020-December-03, 09:40

A very common extension to Multi defences such as Dixon is for a 4 overcall to show a strong major-minor 2-suiter so that is an option. If that is not available, most defences (even multi over multi) include a big hand option in the Double, so you would normally start with that. Passing with this kind of hand is great if the auction continues 2 - P - P but looks less clever if it goes AP.
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Posted 2020-December-03, 10:12

Very much depends on agreement, but my preference is that over 2D, double is either 13-15 balanced / semi balanced, or a very strong hand.
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