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Playing Acol, you open 1♣, and pard bids 3♣ invitational. Are you thinking about slam at this point? What's your bid? If you bid 3♥, what does a 3♠ rebid by pard show?
3N, 5C or 6C? Control heavy 18 count
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Posted 2005-June-06, 13:52
Playing Acol, you open 1♣, and pard bids 3♣ invitational. Are you thinking about slam at this point? What's your bid? If you bid 3♥, what does a 3♠ rebid by pard show?
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Posted 2005-June-06, 14:04
MickyB, on Jun 6 2005, 02:52 PM, said:
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Playing Acol, you open 1♣, and pard bids 3♣ invitational. Are you thinking about slam at this point? What's your bid? If you bid 3♥, what does a 3♠ rebid by pard show?
I bid 4s over 3s. I want partner to know K or KQ of D are big cards.
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Posted 2005-June-06, 14:36
Sure, it can be slam, even 7♣ is still possible with a perfect hand. I bid 3♥, showing a stopper for 3NT. If partner bids 3NT over my 3♥ bid, I will continue with 4♣ which must be a slam going hand and so 3♥ was a cue (denying a ♦ cue).
Now that partner bids 3♠, I guess he has a half stopper in ♦, so slam is off and I bid 5♣.
Now that partner bids 3♠, I guess he has a half stopper in ♦, so slam is off and I bid 5♣.
Peter
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Posted 2005-June-06, 14:47
3♥. Over 3♠ (values) from partner, I will try 5♣, because we have no diamond stopper. Can't be sure that it makes though:
QJx
Qxx
QJ
QJxxx
Now we are at least one level too high. Such is life.
Roland
QJx
Qxx
QJ
QJxxx
Now we are at least one level too high. Such is life.
Roland
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Posted 2005-June-06, 15:15
! lol@your example roland. Even I wouldnt give a limit raise on that POS. Also surely 3N is better over 3H with that, it seems unlikely 5C is the right spot with that. Anyways, 3S is probing for 3N, shows some values there... I wonder how that can be as i have the AK of spades 
I will also bid 4S over 3S as I think partner may still have a diamond card (like the ace). He shouldnt but i dont trust him
I will also bid 4S over 3S as I think partner may still have a diamond card (like the ace). He shouldnt but i dont trust him
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Posted 2005-June-06, 15:20
Walddk, on Jun 6 2005, 03:47 PM, said:
3♥. Over 3♠ (values) from partner, I will try 5♣, because we have no diamond stopper. Can't be sure that it makes though:
QJx
Qxx
QJ
QJxxx
Now we are at least one level too high. Such is life.
Roland
QJx
Qxx
QJ
QJxxx
Now we are at least one level too high. Such is life.
Roland
UGGGGGGGGG this is limit raise in Acol? I better pull out my monthly british bridge and double check this Acol stuff including 2/1 not promising a rebid
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Posted 2005-June-06, 20:26
MickyB, on Jun 6 2005, 02:52 PM, said:
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Playing Acol, you open 1♣, and pard bids 3♣ invitational. Are you thinking about slam at this point? What's your bid? If you bid 3♥, what does a 3♠ rebid by pard show?
Yes, I'll make a slam try. I'll bid 4♣,then turn to my PD.If someone bids 3♥,respondes 3♠,I'll rebid 4♣.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 03:54
For some reason, I'm not optimistic about this hand. I'd bid a plain 3NT.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 07:46
After pard bids 3S I'd be worried about the diamonds for 3N
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Posted 2005-June-07, 07:57
I was taught that when 7 might be cold you should try to play 6 at least, I would start with 3♠ rather than 3♥, at the 3 level I don't show control but weight.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 08:12
I agree with starting with 3S, but this is minority view im sure 
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Posted 2005-June-07, 09:12
Hmmm I'm not that excited about slam either. This hand has 6 losers and its doubtful pard can cover 5 (or have 6 losers himself for the LTC fanatics).
But I'll start with 3S too I guess. Odd - this a hand where I want pard to take control on.
But I'll start with 3S too I guess. Odd - this a hand where I want pard to take control on.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 10:41
Ok, thanks for the responses. I wondered if 1♣:3♣, 3♥:3♠ might be a further probe for 3N, promising a diamond stop, denying a spade stop and showing a hand not keen on declaring, but apparently not I too am a 3♠ bidder over 3♣.
My hand for the limit raise was Qxx Kxx AJx Jxxx. I nearly bid 1♦ over 1♣, which would clearly have led us to 3N rather than the inferior 5♣ that we reached at the table.
I too am a 3♠ bidder over 3♣.My hand for the limit raise was Qxx Kxx AJx Jxxx. I nearly bid 1♦ over 1♣, which would clearly have led us to 3N rather than the inferior 5♣ that we reached at the table.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 10:47
I'll start cuebidding ♥. If p bids 3♠, it's last train, showing a ♦ stopper and no ♠ stopper (why continue cuebidding with a suit unstopped?? 
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Posted 2005-June-07, 10:50
MickyB, on Jun 7 2005, 11:41 AM, said:
My hand for the limit raise was Qxx Kxx AJx Jxxx. I nearly bid 1♦ over 1♣, which would clearly have led us to 3N rather than the inferior 5♣ that we reached at the table.
These Acol limit raises are killing me
Now I really am goiing to leaf through my stack of British Bridge.I would have bid 1NT
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Posted 2005-June-07, 10:56
Free, on Jun 7 2005, 11:47 AM, said:
I'll start cuebidding ♥.
3♥ is not a cue bid. When a minor is supported, our first aim is to find the best game, so 3♥ is merely a feature, showing extras of course since I could have passed 3♣.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 10:57
Walddk, on Jun 7 2005, 12:56 PM, said:
Free, on Jun 7 2005, 11:47 AM, said:
I'll start cuebidding ♥.
3♥ is not a cue bid. When a minor is supported, our first aim is to find the best game, so 3♥ is merely a feature, showing extras of course since I could have passed 3♣.
Roland
While this is true, it can also be (as in this case), an advanced cue-bid, when you continue over 3NT with 4S, pointing a laser light on lack of diamond control.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 11:00
MickyB, on Jun 7 2005, 11:41 AM, said:
Ok, thanks for the responses. I wondered if 1♣:3♣, 3♥:3♠ might be a further probe for 3N, promising a diamond stop, denying a spade stop and showing a hand not keen on declaring, but apparently not I too am a 3♠ bidder over 3♣.
My hand for the limit raise was Qxx Kxx AJx Jxxx. I nearly bid 1♦ over 1♣, which would clearly have led us to 3N rather than the inferior 5♣ that we reached at the table.
I too am a 3♠ bidder over 3♣.My hand for the limit raise was Qxx Kxx AJx Jxxx. I nearly bid 1♦ over 1♣, which would clearly have led us to 3N rather than the inferior 5♣ that we reached at the table.
I would have bid 2N over 1C. Your hand screams NT. 1N is ok but a little conservative for me. Over 3H, again I would bid 3N. You have stoppers and, again, your hand screams NT
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Posted 2005-June-07, 11:30
MickyB, on Jun 7 2005, 11:41 AM, said:
My hand for the limit raise was Qxx Kxx AJx Jxxx.
This is a classic Acol 2NT response over 1♣. 11-12 hcp, balanced, no 4-card major, usually club support, because you could have bid 1♦ with 4. Could conceivably be a 3343 hand.
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Posted 2005-June-07, 14:56
DamnACOL, I though 3♣ will be with 5♣ at least.