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#1 User is offline   zzanders 

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Posted 2020-October-16, 10:37

Recently played in tournament with a "novice" player who has a large number (BBO points) beside his/her name plus over 5000 times played online. How can they keep this novice status?
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Posted 2020-October-16, 12:38

View Postzzanders, on 2020-October-16, 10:37, said:

Recently played in tournament with a "novice" player who has a large number (BBO points) beside his/her name plus over 5000 times played online. How can they keep this novice status?

Never forget that skill levels on BBO are self-assigned, so s/he can keep "novice" as long as s/he wishes. Uday wrote the following years ago under Guidelines for filling out your User Profile; I offer it again fwiw.

"There is an area in your user profile where you can enter information about your level of play. It is not important how well you think you play since most bridge players are unable to assess their own skills with any accuracy. What matters is your level of experience and the degree of success that you have had in live competitive clubs and tournaments. Here are some examples of terms that you can use and how they should be interpreted:

Novice - Someone who recently learned to play bridge
Beginner - Someone who has played bridge for less than one year
Intermediate - Someone who is comparable in skill to most other members of BBO
Advanced - Someone who has been consistently successful in clubs or minor tournaments
Expert - Someone who has enjoyed success in major national tournaments
World Class - Someone who has represented their country in World Championships
If you disagree with another member's assessment of his or her skills, it is completely inappropriate to mention this to them (via chat for example). All members should strive to give an honest approximation of their skill level. This is very much in the best interest of everyone who plays on BBO.

If you would like to join a table to which players of a certain level have been invited, you should follow the above guidelines in order to judge whether or not you would be welcome."

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Posted 2020-October-16, 14:27

View PostChas_P, on 2020-October-16, 12:38, said:

Never forget that skill levels on BBO are self-assigned, so s/he can keep "novice" as long as s/he wishes. Uday wrote the following years ago under Guidelines for filling out your User Profile; I offer it again fwiw.

"There is an area in your user profile where you can enter information about your level of play. It is not important how well you think you play since most bridge players are unable to assess their own skills with any accuracy. What matters is your level of experience and the degree of success that you have had in live competitive clubs and tournaments. Here are some examples of terms that you can use and how they should be interpreted:

Novice - Someone who recently learned to play bridge
Beginner - Someone who has played bridge for less than one year
Intermediate - Someone who is comparable in skill to most other members of BBO
Advanced - Someone who has been consistently successful in clubs or minor tournaments
Expert - Someone who has enjoyed success in major national tournaments
World Class - Someone who has represented their country in World Championships
If you disagree with another member's assessment of his or her skills, it is completely inappropriate to mention this to them (via chat for example). All members should strive to give an honest approximation of their skill level. This is very much in the best interest of everyone who plays on BBO.

If you would like to join a table to which players of a certain level have been invited, you should follow the above guidelines in order to judge whether or not you would be welcome."


In any event self-calibration of cognitive ability is a nearly impossible task. Zia is a novice when he's asleep, a world expert in his thirties, an intermediate after a few drinks and so on. Ask Shakespeare.
In fact, somebodies expertise is only important in relation to YOUR ability. They aren't playing solitaire.
non est deus ex machina; även maskiner behöver lite kärlek; N'écris jamais une lettre et n'en détruis jamais une.
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Posted 2020-October-17, 01:44

The only people who describe themselves as novices are true novices or true experts.
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Posted 2020-October-17, 01:44

Some Vu-graph commentators describe themselves as novices.
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