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A very slightly interesting hand I seem to be a magnet for this sort of hand.

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Posted 2020-October-11, 01:57

For no prize at all, what does the East robot have for this bid?


fwiw this was the modal result on Board 3 in the Saturday Prime Daylong. Nine (9) of us reached this spot for 54%! out 26.
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Posted 2020-October-11, 04:06

That is bizarre, machines can follow a set of logical instructions but that bid isn't logical. From the posts about robot bidding and play I've seen on here, the robots seem to have some major bugs in their programming. If I were responsible for that programming, I'd want to address things like this. If robots are going to bid worse than a beginner I can't see the point of having robots at all, either program them with well tested and robust code or don't bother with them.
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Posted 2020-October-11, 07:06

At least the bots seemed to have learned playing in your solid ten card suit is a good idea. I had a bug report from 2011 where it decided to defend 2S.

Ten Solid.

The really rare shapes should be a low priority, better to fix the more common issues first.
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Posted 2020-October-11, 17:38

Never double GIB East because when they bid, they've got the goods. I suspect GIB East was trying a gambit know as Walking the Kangaroo, hoping to get doubled later.
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Posted 2020-October-11, 18:35

View Postjohnu, on 2020-October-11, 17:38, said:

Never double GIB East because when they bid, they've got the goods. I suspect GIB East was trying a gambit know as Walking the Kangaroo, hoping to get doubled later.


Or as we call it in Australia "walking the dog"
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Posted 2020-October-11, 23:52

Eight hearts + club A? Let your partner field it I guess?
What did the self-kibs do?
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Posted 2020-October-12, 04:48

You must be clearvoyant?

I would never open 1 NT on a hand that is too strong for 1 NT and is unbalanced. But if I'd know East had this and would bid like this, OK i might consider it!

As for the East, well, what can you say...
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Posted 2020-October-12, 07:47

The robots don't have ten fingers is my guess.
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Posted 2020-October-12, 08:27

Ok now a serious answer.

Never be bothered by opponents bidding concentrated on you and your partner.

To open 1nt on a 4441 pattern without a A or K in the singleton is not recommended, it can work against robots but then you play fool the robots instead of bridge.
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Posted 2020-October-12, 10:04

BBO robots bid very inconsistently: even bridge v+ and bridge baron are better. Give me a system and I can create a software program to bid it faithfully and only to resort to Monte Carlo techniques when there is inherent ambiguity in how to deal with a situation for which the system is ill suited. This is ridiculous: if you want to play competitively on-line, you are faced with playing with randomly crazy bids from the robots.
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Posted 2020-October-12, 11:34

Some advice re Dancing with the Bots:

1. Never downgrade a hand to open 1NT. You will miss far too many games (remember, the Bots don't defend all that well early in the hand).

2. You can open a 4441 hand 1NT with a small stiff in a minor against the bots. That will work well. But if you stiff is in a major, you'll end up in a 5-1 fit far too often. Not advisable.

3. When a bot makes a 3-level jump overcall after your 1NT opening, they will have a VERY strong offensive hand (though generally not THIS strong).

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Posted 2020-October-13, 09:26

Sir,
Opening 1NT on the 4144 hand in the 1ST seat is simply outrageous if not entirely stupid.No further comments as hands can easily be constructed from nowhere to make them appear interesting. "Bridge squeezes complete" gives innumerable examples of such crooked deals.
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Posted 2020-October-13, 09:59

The bidding is all very well, but did the bot find the safety play of ducking a round of trumps to guard against a bad break?
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Posted 2020-October-13, 10:50

I just can not believe that this hand comes under "interesting " deals.May be for Chess players.
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