[MickyB]

Jilly's 6-5 topic got me wondering - what does an auction like

P-1♥-P-3♥, 3♠

show - without discussion (expert p), or in your preferred methods?

[pbleighton]

A good 3S opener, or maybe a little better.

Peter

[Fluffy]

I have spades, I don't have balanced hand, and if you have singleton ♠ you can be sure we better play in a minor.

[Fluffy]

pbleighton, on Jun 5 2005, 01:02 PM, said:

A good 3S opener, or maybe a little better.

Peter

Althou it is not very clear, the problem comes when you are passed hand Peter.

[whereagles]

MickyB, on Jun 5 2005, 12:54 PM, said:

Jilly's 6-5 topic got me wondering - what does an auction like

P-1♥-P-3♥, 3♠

show - without discussion (expert p), or in your preferred methods?

In my partnership that's a 2-suiter spades + minor. Cannot be 1-suiter because we always open those regardless of suit quality...

[MickyB]

Ok thanks for the replies so far.

I gave this question to a player I respect, and his opinion was that 6-5s are often best off opening a weak 2 and making another move later. Obviously this diverges from conventional wisdom. Any comments?

When people are saying two suiters, what counts? 6-4, 5-5, 5-6?

Any suggestions as to how an agreement to cover this situation could be phrased? Something like, "A passed hand opposite a passing partner bidding a new suit at the 3 level without jumping"?

Cheers!

[Winstonm]

At imps, this sequence to me shows an opening 2S/3S preempt that was in some way "flawed", and for me the biggest flaw would be a void and some defensive potential and less (under my methods) than an opening hand. I would expect partner to have: KJ9xxx(x), void, Axx(x), xxx or along those lines.

At MPs, it could be darn near anything provided the 3H is preemptive.

WinstonM

[Fluffy]

MickyB, on Jun 5 2005, 01:58 PM, said:

I gave this question to a player I respect, and his opinion was that 6-5s are often best off opening a weak 2 and making another move later. Obviously this diverges from conventional wisdom. Any comments?

2 weeks ago I got this auction:

2♠-ps-ps-3NT
4♦-ps-4♠-X
ps-ps-ps

And I got -690 Because the opener was having a 6♠-7♦

[Fluffy]

Jlall, on Jun 5 2005, 08:06 PM, said:

If you preempt most hands with 6 or 7 spades then it is probably more useful to play it as 5-5 or 6-5. This is how I like to play it, as I think it is more frequent. Any agreement is a good one here, but most partnerships dont have one.

Having an agreement is very nice, but actually you don't need one, with a pickup partner on BBO being south, I got recently something like...:

♠xx
♥AQxx
♦KJxx
♣Qxx

N - E - S -W
ps -ps -1♦ -1NT
2♠ -ps -???

I assumed he was having 5♠ and a scape somewhere wich surelly was ♦. Probably 2NT or 3♣ was a better bid in case it is ♣s the other suit, but we played a decent 3♦ on a 4-4 fit if I remember correctly.

[Fluffy]

He couldn't,. and I now beleive 3♦ was a mistake. But pulling wasn't.

[FrancesHinden]

MickyB, on Jun 5 2005, 08:58 AM, said:

I gave this question to a player I respect, and his opinion was that 6-5s are often best off opening a weak 2 and making another move later. Obviously this diverges from conventional wisdom. Any comments?

One swallow doesn't make a summer, but at the recent English Spring Bank Holiday Swiss Teams, one player was dealt

AQ9xxx
-
xx
10xxxx

in first seat, vul against not.
At every table where I saw the result except one (7 tables) this was opened a weak 2S, passed out, scoring +200 when spades were 3-3.

My partner passed, and we then had a swift auction to 5C for +600 (6C had play), as I held

K
xxxx
Axxx
AQJx