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#1 User is offline   macb423 

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Posted 2020-June-19, 19:14

I am quite certain that if I play against the robots without signing in, that my hands are consistently below average. I almost never have an opening bid, and once averaged out ten hands to 7.9 points. This is extremely unlikely if the hands are truly random. They aren’t.

Why does BBO do this?
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Posted 2020-June-19, 20:05

Where exactly are you playing without signing in?

It's been demonstrated time and time again that there are no biases in the main dealing algorithm, though the most common Solitaire options (Just Play Bridge and Bridge 4) are in fact best-hand, meaning the deals are rotated to give you the best hand, so clearly you're not using that.

I'm not sure how the Matchpoints and IMPs options work; I suspect it's something like the old weekly free tournaments, where you'll see exactly the same set of deals until the next one is rotated in a week later. So perhaps you're just playing the same set of deals, which happened to be one lacking in HCP, which is obviously going to happen with random dealing. (Edit - it's not - appears to be a steady stream of hands).

Or perhaps there is indeed a bug in the format you're using, since I've only ever analysed deals in the main software. But would need to know what that is to test.
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Posted 2020-June-19, 20:59

HCP of 100 hands from the anonymous MP option:

4,11,13,5,12,11,9,11,10,0,11,13,7,6,10,19,9,10,12,13,15,13,2,7,5,14,6,5,14,14,23,15,4,11,9,8,9,10,6,7,8,10,10,12,9,10,12,6,2,11,5,11,19,3,11,11,11,13,8,7,23,13,9,18,5,13,16,18,6,9,11,3,21,7,7,5,8,5,12,6,20,10,14,9,5,10,8,10,3,12,11,13,9,7,9,4,4,7,14,13


Average is 9.89 HCP.

Perhaps you've played best-hand in other formats before, and have forgotten the rarity of actually having hands that good when playing with randomly dealt cards.

And the chances of being dealt 79 or less HCP over 10 boards isn't "extremely unlikely" - it's about 1 in 18. If I play 10 boards on 12 separate occasions, there's a 50/50 chance I would also be able to say I was "once" dealt 79 or less HCP.

And far more so if you were fudging the numbers and only averaged out 10 consecutive boards that you noticed were a poor run.

Indeed, in boards 89 - 98 of the above I magically averaged 7.9 HCP. But there was about an 80% chance I could find a run that bad.
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