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#1 User is offline   rrrrrrrt 

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Posted 2020-January-16, 08:13

I, as south, opened 1 spade, west overcalled 2 diamonds, my partner Niorth bid 3 spades.
West then asked whether I should be alerting this.
I do niot believe that west should have been asking as it was not his turn and also as far as I knew it was not an announceable bid. He seemed to think it was if it was a weak jump bid.
Firstly surely he should not be asking as it was not his bid and secondly it was nit a bid at new suite but at my my spade suite. Was he also given information to his parttner by asking?
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#2 User is offline   tonyuk 

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Posted 2020-January-16, 08:22

West was wrong in asking.
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Posted 2020-January-16, 10:17

West cannot ask anything out of turn, nor can he ask at his own turn a question solely for the benefit of his partner.
Asking whether a call should be alerted is also improper - if he really needs to know now, it would be better to ask for an explanation of the auction so far, or at least of the 3 bid (at risk of giving UI to partner).
The 3 bid might be alertable - this depends upon your agreements and upon the regulations of your RA (it would usually not be alertable if it shows fit and invitational strength).
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Posted 2020-January-16, 13:25

If N/S have an agreement that a non-preemptive raise is shown by other means (3♢s?) then 3♠ is surely alertable. BBO asks that N should pre-alert himself.
I've recently been persuaded (see thread in "Suggestions for the software") that this is reasonable and even desirable. And W cannot then convey UI by asking out of turn!
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Posted 2020-January-16, 13:39

View PostXgasman, on 2020-January-16, 13:25, said:

If N/S have an agreement that a non-preemptive raise is shown by other means (3♢s?) then 3♠ is surely alertable.

In most RAs, yes. No obvious reason for opponents to assume that is the case when there is no alert, though.

View PostXgasman, on 2020-January-16, 13:25, said:

BBO asks that N should pre-alert himself.

This forum is usually about I/A bridge in general, not specific to BBO, or law issues come to that.
'Simple Rulings' is a good place for such a discussion.
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Posted 2020-January-16, 15:08

View Postpescetom, on 2020-January-16, 10:17, said:

it would usually not be alertable if it shows fit and invitational strength

I think you mean the opposite.
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