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When you click on Help me find a Game in the 4.2.4 beta version, you find the button " Kibbitz " - I'd like to kibbitz.
Prior to this version, kibitzers were spelt with a single b.
This sent me scurrying to dictionary.com
To my surprise I found both the entries, kibbitz and kibitz exist.
Anyone knows, if there is any minor difference between the 2 words or are they really synonymous?
Godwin
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Kibitz or Kibbitz Is it synonymous?
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Posted 2005-April-29, 19:48
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Posted 2005-April-29, 19:51
I believe that the problem arises because it's a transliteration in Yiddish, where suprisingly the word means "chat".
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Posted 2005-April-30, 03:36
Kibitzer or kibbitzer: "One who looks on and often offers unwanted advice or comment especially at a card game".
The second part is not exactly what you expect from a bridge spectator:
LAW 76 - SPECTATORS
A. Conduct during Bidding or Play
1. One Hand Only
A spectator should not look at the hand of more than one player, except by permission.
2. Personal Reaction
A spectator must not display any reaction to the bidding or play while a deal is in progress.
3. Mannerisms or Remarks
During the round, a spectator must refrain from mannerisms or remarks of any kind (including conversation with a player).
4. Consideration for Players
A spectator must not in any way disturb a player.
B. Spectator Participation
A spectator may not call attention to any irregularity or mistake, nor speak on any question of fact or law except by request of the Director.
Roland
The second part is not exactly what you expect from a bridge spectator:
LAW 76 - SPECTATORS
A. Conduct during Bidding or Play
1. One Hand Only
A spectator should not look at the hand of more than one player, except by permission.
2. Personal Reaction
A spectator must not display any reaction to the bidding or play while a deal is in progress.
3. Mannerisms or Remarks
During the round, a spectator must refrain from mannerisms or remarks of any kind (including conversation with a player).
4. Consideration for Players
A spectator must not in any way disturb a player.
B. Spectator Participation
A spectator may not call attention to any irregularity or mistake, nor speak on any question of fact or law except by request of the Director.
Roland
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Posted 2005-April-30, 03:51
Walddk, on Apr 30 2005, 04:36 AM, said:
Kibitzer or kibbitzer: "One who looks on and often offers unwanted advice or comment especially at a card game".
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Posted 2005-April-30, 14:44
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Anyone knows, if there is any minor difference between the 2 words or are they really synonymous?
Godwin
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Buy the book "The Joys of Yiddish" By Leo Rosten, if you can. Informative and entertaining. Someone called me a tsetummelteh the other day and I thought it was a compliment until I looked it up in my book
There are two and a half pages of explanations for kibitzers and kibbitzers. Watching a card game is only one of the many things that "kibitz" means.And yes, they are synonymous.
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Posted 2005-May-26, 13:49
Walddk, on Apr 30 2005, 04:36 AM, said:
Kibitzer or kibbitzer: "One who looks on and often offers unwanted advice or comment especially at a card game".
The second part is not exactly what you expect from a bridge spectator:
The second part is not exactly what you expect from a bridge spectator:
The Laws say what a kibbitzer may do during a hand. As long as they wait until after the hand to offer their "unwanted advice", I don't think they're violating the law (if you consider friendly comments to be disturbing, perhaps you shouldn't allow your friends to kibbitz you).
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