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#21 User is offline   lamford 

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Posted 2019-November-09, 10:48

View PostZelandakh, on 2019-October-31, 07:21, said:

Surely a true SB would have asked about the alerted call while thinking about the lead, both to give the opps the opportunity to provide MI and also to make sure partner was aware that it was SB's turn.

SB is aware of a bug in the Laws here, but even he now regards it as wrong to try to exploit it.

Law 20 G states:
G. Incorrect Procedure
1. A player may not ask a question if his sole purpose is to benefit partner.
2. A player may not ask a question if his sole purpose is to elicit an incorrect response from an opponent.

On a previous occasion SB asked a question, BOTH for the purpose of benefiting partner AND for the purpose of eliciting an incorrect response. He then argued that as there were two purposes neither 20G1 nor 20G2 applied. When SB first tried this, OO applied 12A1:
The Director may award an adjusted score in favour of a non-offending contestant when he judges that these Laws do not prescribe a rectification for the particular type of violation committed. OO also sent a suggested correction to the WBFLC, deleting both of the superfluous words "sole" in Law 20G but it was ignored yet again. He followed up with a suggested change deleting both the "if his" and replacing them with "whose" and this was again ignored.
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Posted 2019-November-09, 11:54

View Postlamford, on 2019-November-09, 10:48, said:


Law 20 G states:
G. Incorrect Procedure
1. A player may not ask a question if his sole purpose is to benefit partner.
2. A player may not ask a question if his sole purpose is to elicit an incorrect response from an opponent.

On a previous occasion SB asked a question, BOTH for the purpose of benefiting partner AND for the purpose of eliciting an incorrect response. He then argued that as there were two purposes neither 20G1 nor 20G2 applied. When SB first tried this, OO applied 12A1:
The Director may award an adjusted score in favour of a non-offending contestant when he judges that these Laws do not prescribe a rectification for the particular type of violation committed. OO also sent a suggested correction to the WBFLC, deleting both of the superfluous words "sole" in Law 20G but it was ignored yet again. He followed up with a suggested change deleting both the "if his" and replacing them with "whose" and this was again ignored.


I fully agree about the bug, but I'm not that keen on OO's suggested corrections.

I would prefer ""A player may not ask a question with the intent to..." which is also closer to the original.
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Posted 2019-November-09, 13:22

A player may not ask a question that has the sole purpose of:
a. benefiting partner; and/or
b. eliciting an incorrect response from an opponent.
(-: Zel :-)
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Posted 2019-November-09, 14:09

Poor Oscar can't get no respect. B-)
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