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Posted 2019-October-04, 01:19

https://tinyurl.com/y3lknlyc
This hand came up in an ACBL tournament. Full disclosure: I'm a bit of a newbie and tried cue bidding spades! Ending up in 7NTx. Fortunately, the robots must have been fearful of the spade bidding and made an orthodox 4th down diamond lead. Amazingly, the contract makes! Enjoy.
Interestingly, after the crazy spade bid the robots seemed to believe that I had two, different, club holdings simultaneously.
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Posted 2019-October-04, 02:25

They also don't seem to have any useful agreement about what a double of artificial spades by east would mean.
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Posted 2019-October-04, 12:14

View Postpilowsky, on 2019-October-04, 01:19, said:

https://tinyurl.com/y3lknlyc
This hand came up in an ACBL tournament. Full disclosure: I'm a bit of a newbie and tried cue bidding spades! Ending up in 7NTx. Fortunately, the robots must have been fearful of the space bidding and made an orthodox 4th down diamond lead. Enjoy.
Interestingly, after the crazy spade bid the robots seemed to believe that I had two different club holdings simultaneously.

I always cautions anybody who had a GIB disaster to always check the meaning of any bid you aren't 100% sure about. In this case, 3 is not a cue bid but shows strong rebiddable spades (i.e. 5+ spades) and 6+ clubs. Once you have misbid your hand, you won't be able to convince GIB that you don't have what you promised.
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Posted 2019-October-04, 12:17

View Postpescetom, on 2019-October-04, 02:25, said:

They also don't seem to have any useful agreement about what a double of artificial spades by east would mean.

That could be true in other auctions, but GIB doesn't "know" about any artificial spade bids since all the spade bids are defined as natural.
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Posted 2019-October-04, 14:50

The punchline of course was that the contract was makeable because of the bidding error!
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Posted 2019-October-09, 02:00

Well, today playing solitaire, the same robot got its revenge by cue bidding hearts at me by calling 3! robots revenge
Apparently, now calling 3 means 'I have 2!'
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Posted 2019-October-09, 02:20

View Postpilowsky, on 2019-October-09, 02:00, said:

Well, today playing solitaire, the same robot got its revenge by cue bidding hearts at me by calling 3! robots revenge
Apparently, now calling 3 means 'I have 2!'

3 is a cuebid of the opponents' suit; it can't be natural (and can't be 3 card support given the lack of a 2 cue or 3 raise the first time).
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Posted 2019-October-09, 03:39

View Postsmerriman, on 2019-October-09, 02:20, said:

3 is a cuebid of the opponents' suit; it can't be natural (and can't be 3 card support given the lack of a 2 cue or 3 raise the first time).


Sure, but why not just bid ?
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