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2/1 in indy on bbo what is that?

#1 User is offline   pigpenz 

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Posted 2019-August-10, 10:59

just started playing some free indys lately after 15 years :)
it seems people who play in it have no idea what is standard BBO 2/1!
cant it be set up like when one plays with the bots that you can preview the bids
before you make them....alot of players make all sorts of weird bids over 1NT etc
you get the drift.

If this were set up then everyone would learn what BBO 2/1 is :lol:
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Posted 2019-August-10, 17:52

Isn't it frustrating when an event is clearly stated as 2/1 and your partner of the moment decides that 1s-p-1n-p is NOT forcing...and it costs you first in the event because of the poor score you get for not getting to the cold 4s game?
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Posted 2019-August-11, 01:54

View PostHardVector, on 2019-August-10, 17:52, said:

Isn't it frustrating when an event is clearly stated as 2/1 and your partner of the moment decides that 1s-p-1n-p is NOT forcing...and it costs you first in the event because of the poor score you get for not getting to the cold 4s game?

1NT semi-forcing is probably more popular than 1NT forcing nowadays, so if they want it to be forcing they really should say so, 2/1 is not enough.

But if he passed with a hand that can pass 1NT semi-forcing then there probably wasn't game anyway.
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Posted 2019-August-11, 10:38

the point is it would be a great way to teach people what the 2/1 system is.
I have these auctions

1NT 2 is it diamonds or majors?
1NT 2 clubs or something else
1NT double

if folks in indy could see what their bids are supposed to be before they make them
it might help everybody.
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Posted 2019-August-11, 10:46

View Postpigpenz, on 2019-August-11, 10:38, said:

the point is it would be a great way to teach people what the 2/1 system is.
I have these auctions

1NT 2 is it diamonds or majors?
1NT 2 clubs or something else
1NT double


OK, but I guess what you are after is the GIB bidding system or some arbitrary 2/1 based system that is imposed for this kind of tournament - 2/1 itself has nothing to do with the way you interfere over a 1NT opening. I think GIB plays Cappeletti.
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Posted 2019-August-12, 08:50

View Postpescetom, on 2019-August-11, 10:46, said:

OK, but I guess what you are after is the GIB bidding system or some arbitrary 2/1 based system that is imposed for this kind of tournament - 2/1 itself has nothing to do with the way you interfere over a 1NT opening. I think GIB plays Cappeletti.


thats my point what is standard for this, is there an indy convention card...make it so people know what is standard for this
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Posted 2019-August-13, 08:42

View Postpigpenz, on 2019-August-12, 08:50, said:

thats my point what is standard for this, is there an indy convention card...make it so people know what is standard for this

There is no standard for indys, it's a crapshoot. In the Free Automated Fun tourneys you're expected to play 2/1, but there's no way to enforce it.

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Posted 2019-August-14, 12:05

View Postbarmar, on 2019-August-13, 08:42, said:

There is no standard for indys, it's a crapshoot. In the Free Automated Fun tourneys you're expected to play 2/1, but there's no way to enforce it.

so why not show some sort of BBO card for 2/1 is that really that hard?
even the ACBL had at onetime yellow card tournaments
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Posted 2019-August-15, 04:08

View Postpigpenz, on 2019-August-14, 12:05, said:

so why not show some sort of BBO card for 2/1 is that really that hard?

It won't do any good, I guarantee it.

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even the ACBL had at onetime yellow card tournaments

And they weren't popular so they went away.

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Posted 2019-August-15, 10:30

View Postbarmar, on 2019-August-15, 04:08, said:

It won't do any good, I guarantee it.

And they weren't popular so they went away.

thanks Barry
maybe we can start a 4NT game and make it a real crap shoot....
pass 3 cards left 2 accross and 1 right and opening bid has to be 4NT
and dummy gets to choose declarer or opps
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