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lol luis, thats hilarious
cc// at least be polite
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Posted 2005-May-11, 16:08
kenberg, on May 11 2005, 02:46 PM, said:
If you want to do this with an Expert Internationalist who presumably knows how to take care of himself, or herself, go ahead and have your fun. Against anyone else it is the sort of thing that gives bridge players a bad name.
Excuse me Ken, but if just one single person can't see how funny this is, I feel sorry for him/her, because that person has absolutely no sense of one of the most important things in life: humour.
I am still laughing
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Posted 2005-May-11, 17:11
if luis' 2♣ bid meant "5+ clubs, 9-13, and a 4 card major" he would have said so... aamof, if it meant anything other than, or in addition to, his explanation, he would have said so... if it held inferences for his partner, he would have said so
had my partner been the ei i would have been slightly embarrassed and very amused ... i wouldn't have *shown* it (if possible), but it would have been there
had my partner been the ei i would have been slightly embarrassed and very amused ... i wouldn't have *shown* it (if possible), but it would have been there
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Posted 2005-May-12, 08:07
great story luis.... i can't stop smiling... hurting cheeks
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Posted 2005-May-12, 09:41
PriorKnowledge, on May 12 2005, 09:07 AM, said:
great story luis.... i can't stop smiling... hurting cheeks
Indeed ! LOL
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Posted 2005-May-13, 01:03
Wasn't this 2♣ opening just Precision? (The one from the original topic, I mean. Precision and WJ are more commonly seen on BBO than F-N).
Btw, 2♣ as a natural weak two is not extremely unusual.
Btw, 2♣ as a natural weak two is not extremely unusual.
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Posted 2005-May-13, 03:27
ROFL Luis!
In the league I also had some interesting questions and some disbelief like "but what if you are strong?".
No it's not Precision, it shows 5+♣ unbalanced and 9 to 13 HCP.
It does not promise a 4-card major if only 5 cards, could for example also be 5♣ and 4♦. In 3rd I wouldn't argue with 5422 / 5332 either if the suit is good. Fantunes also include 4441 hands but in my partnership I do not. We pass (yes even with 13 HCP), when it comes up which is never.
Actually it did come up once. Here it is.
Your distribution is 4441 (short Club), 13 HCP but not a great hand, team league against 2 women internationalists. You are in first seat but second seat opens a weak 1NT out of turn. Because of the screens she can take it back without penalty and after I pass she bids 1NT anyway. 2 passes to me, I show both majors, partner picks one and plays there. Dummy comes down, the WI the other side of the screen was somewhat surprised, my partner also but positively
So that is how you solve these hands in the Fantunes system.
In the league I also had some interesting questions and some disbelief like "but what if you are strong?".
No it's not Precision, it shows 5+♣ unbalanced and 9 to 13 HCP.
It does not promise a 4-card major if only 5 cards, could for example also be 5♣ and 4♦. In 3rd I wouldn't argue with 5422 / 5332 either if the suit is good. Fantunes also include 4441 hands but in my partnership I do not. We pass (yes even with 13 HCP), when it comes up which is never.
Actually it did come up once. Here it is.
Your distribution is 4441 (short Club), 13 HCP but not a great hand, team league against 2 women internationalists. You are in first seat but second seat opens a weak 1NT out of turn. Because of the screens she can take it back without penalty and after I pass she bids 1NT anyway. 2 passes to me, I show both majors, partner picks one and plays there. Dummy comes down, the WI the other side of the screen was somewhat surprised, my partner also but positively
So that is how you solve these hands in the Fantunes system.
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Posted 2005-May-13, 07:31
super story luis.i enjoy playing in europe just because of all the great conventions that i cannot play here in the us. at an acbl tourney you would have the director called every hand. thats why i dont play acbl tourneys. the rules are ridiculous.
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Posted 2005-May-15, 05:19
I play 2C as weak (5+ cards, 5-11 hcp). Our major suit openings can be made on a decent 8 count, and if light:
1) can be 4 cards, and
2) can have a longer minor, and
3) won't have a reasonable six card major suit
If normal strength, will be 5+ cards, and are unlimited.
We do use a cc. Each time an opp sits down at our table, we greet him/her with "Hi opp, we open very light. See our convention card."
Some people leave immediately, but that's no loss
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1) can be 4 cards, and
2) can have a longer minor, and
3) won't have a reasonable six card major suit
If normal strength, will be 5+ cards, and are unlimited.
We do use a cc. Each time an opp sits down at our table, we greet him/her with "Hi opp, we open very light. See our convention card."
Some people leave immediately, but that's no loss
Peter