[masse24]

Left2Right, on 2018-December-16, 14:20, said:

So at my table, it goes:
1♦ - 1♥
3♦ - 4♦
4♥(1) - 5♦(2)
5♥(3) - 5♠(4)
6♣(5) - 7NT

(1) Kickback (RKCB 1430)
(2) 2KC, with ♦Q
(3) Specific King ask.
(4) ♠K
(5) S.S.A. for clubs (See this reference)

(4) ♠K??

[sfi]

masse24, on 2018-December-16, 14:54, said:

(4) ♠K??

I'm guessing it should have been 5NT to show the HK.

[MinorKid]

1♦ 1♥
2NT 3♦
3NT 6NT

[miamijd]

If you play either (a) Meckwell Precision or a variant or (2) kickback with spiral scan asks after specific Kings, this isn't hard. Otherwise, settling for 6NT seems very reasonable to me.

[hamish32]

Playing a strong NT with Tom response:

1NT - 2C
3C - 3D
3H - 4C
4D - 4H
4S - 4NT
5C - 6C
7D

1NT = 15-17
2C = game try plus values
3C = max 5+D
3D = 3+ D at least a mild slam try
3H = hold (A or K)
4C = slam interest first or second round control in C (no control in S)
4D = waiting
4H/4S cue fiest or second
4NT = turbo 2 or 4 key cards
5C = control in C suggests all key cards held
6C = Q of trumps + this Q grand slam try

This is our sequence

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

I will give it a try, lets see where I end up, it may be possible that it is an auction the
orginal poster may be possible to dublicate

1D - 1H (1)
1NT (2) - 2C (3)
2NT (4) - 3D (5)
3H (6) - 4C (7)
4NT (8) - 5S (8)
5NT (9) - 6C (9)
6H ... (10) - 7D

(1) I dont see, why I should supress the 4 card heart suit
(2) 15-19, 4 spades possible, the alternative would be 2NT showing 15/16+ and 6+ diamonds
given the suit quality, selling the hand as bal. 15-19 is something I may consider at the
table
(3) relais, starting from +7HCP
(4) 16/17, no 3 hearts, no 4 spades
(5) diamond fit, SI
(6) cue, a top honor (A or K) ... need to cross check with partner, lets say it is
(7) cue, denies spade control
(8) RKCB, 2KC+Q
(9) specific King Ask, club king
(10) asking for hear king, if partner does not have it, you can check out in 6NT

but I have to admit, after 6C, i.e. the last round of bidding, I am in unchartered territority.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I have just seen the remark, that mentions spiral scans, we dont, we only play specific king ask.

[Cyberyeti]

P_Marlowe, on 2018-December-18, 05:00, said:

Hi,

I will give it a try, lets see where I end up, it may be possible that it is an auction the
orginal poster may be possible to dublicate

1D - 1H (1)
1NT (2) - 2C (3)
2NT (4) - 3D (5)
3H (6) - 4C (7)
4NT (8) - 5S (8)
5NT (9) - 6C (9)
6H ... (10) - 7D

(1) I dont see, why I should supress the 4 card heart suit
(2) 15-19, 4 spades possible, the alternative would be 2NT showing 15/16+ and 6+ diamonds
given the suit quality, selling the hand as bal. 15-19 is something I may consider at the
table
(3) relais, starting from +7HCP
(4) 16/17, no 3 hearts, no 4 spades
(5) diamond fit, SI
(6) cue, a top honor (A or K) ... need to cross check with partner, lets say it is
(7) cue, denies spade control
(8) RKCB, 2KC+Q
(9) specific King Ask, club king
(10) asking for hear king, if partner does not have it, you can check out in 6NT

but I have to admit, after 6C, i.e. the last round of bidding, I am in unchartered territority.

With kind regards
Marlowe

PS: I have just seen the remark, that mentions spiral scans, we dont, we only play specific king ask.

We actually don't "suppress" the heart suit, our structure for inverted minors can deal with 4Ms, it's just that once opener denies one, there's no point in mentioning it. Our response to 2♣ would be 3♦ and now responder would only be showing 3 due to not having had the inverted raise.

I see no mention of the essential ♣Q in your auction (it's essential because the grand is close to ZP opposite the 2443 version of the actual hand without it, and you have no way of knowing which is held).

[P_Marlowe]

Cyberyeti, on 2018-December-18, 05:44, said:

We actually don't "suppress" the heart suit, our structure for inverted minors can deal with 4Ms, it's just that once opener denies one, there's no point in mentioning it. Our response to 2♣ would be 3♦ and now responder would only be showing 3 due to not having had the inverted raise.

I see no mention of the essential ♣Q in your auction (it's essential because the grand is close to ZP opposite the 2443 version of the actual hand without it, and you have no way of knowing which is held).

The heart Queen would also be ok, North is asking, and he sees the heart doubleton, but as I mentioned,
after 6C it becomes murky, and what you can find out between 6C ... and 6NT with spiral, I have no idea,
but I do doubt, that it is enough.
But if you play minorwood, which we dont, you gain the space I wasted in my auction when I jumped from 4C
to 4NT. This add. space could be used in finding out about the heart honors.