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Posted 2018-November-02, 03:33

Are there lots of people leaving table when they see a 4-3-3-3 hand with 5 HCP, or other hands that as defender you don't have much control, hopping everywhere until getting a good hand? Very often when you see a number of people come and go without playing, you can infer that the particular hand has very low HCP.
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Posted 2018-November-02, 09:01

I wouldn't be surprised if some people do this, but I like to hope it's not so many that you would be able to detect a pattern. It's just one hand.

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Posted 2018-November-02, 10:25

View Postbarmar, on 2018-November-02, 09:01, said:

I wouldn't be surprised if some people do this, but I like to hope it's not so many that you would be able to detect a pattern. It's just one hand.


You can often see the pattern on one hand, with two or more people coming and leaving in the same seat - I'm surprised if you can't see that in statistics. It's usually about the hand, although sometimes it seems to be something else (probably the level or profile of host).
My impression is that this has decreased in recent years, but maybe I've just settled on a time of day when more patient players abound, or the impatient players are now playing somewhere else (I usually just say "Take me to the first seat").
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Posted 2018-November-02, 17:56

View Postr8864, on 2018-November-02, 03:33, said:

Are there lots of people leaving table when they see a 4-3-3-3 hand with 5 HCP, or other hands that as defender you don't have much control, hopping everywhere until getting a good hand? Very often when you see a number of people come and go without playing, you can infer that the particular hand has very low HCP.


This works the other way as well:
"This will be my last hand"
(hand ends and new one is dealt)
"Well, just one more" <ALERT> Big hand <end ALERT>
You must know the rules well - so that you may break them wisely!
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Posted 2018-November-03, 12:00

View Postpescetom, on 2018-November-02, 10:25, said:

You can often see the pattern on one hand, with two or more people coming and leaving in the same seat - I'm surprised if you can't see that in statistics. It's usually about the hand, although sometimes it seems to be something else (probably the level or profile of host).
My impression is that this has decreased in recent years, but maybe I've just settled on a time of day when more patient players abound, or the impatient players are now playing somewhere else (I usually just say "Take me to the first seat").

Maybe it has decreased because it affects their MCR%.

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Posted 2018-November-03, 13:38

View Postbarmar, on 2018-November-03, 12:00, said:

Maybe it has decreased because it affects their MCR%.


That sounds plausible - does a low MCR penalise them in some way?
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Posted 2018-November-04, 03:36

View Postbarmar, on 2018-November-03, 12:00, said:

Maybe it has decreased because it affects their MCR%.


I thought sitting and leaving table without bidding doesn't affect MCR? Maybe I'm mistaken?
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Posted 2018-November-04, 17:02

View Postpescetom, on 2018-November-03, 13:38, said:

That sounds plausible - does a low MCR penalise them in some way?

It prevents them from playing at tables that have a MCR restriction.

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Posted 2018-November-04, 17:03

View Postr8864, on 2018-November-04, 03:36, said:

I thought sitting and leaving table without bidding doesn't affect MCR? Maybe I'm mistaken?

Good point. I'm not sure whether it's without you bidding or without anyone bidding. If it's the latter, then if you join in the middle of the auction and leave because of the bad hand, you'll be considered a runner.

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