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Quick Poll 1D-1S-3D-4D

Poll: Quick Poll (31 member(s) have cast votes)

1D-1S-3D-4D (opponents passing throughout):

  1. Invitational to Game (NF) (3 votes [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  2. Forcing, requests a Control Bid (23 votes [74.19%])

    Percentage of vote: 74.19%

  3. Minorwood (3 votes [9.68%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.68%

  4. Something Else (2 votes [6.45%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.45%

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Posted 2018-October-17, 07:51

View Postnige1, on 2018-October-17, 07:02, said:

Cyberyeti pinpoints the problem. What do calls mean after 1 - 1 - 3 - ??.
Perhaps
  • Pass = NAT
  • 3 = ART (ASK for stop or NAT 2-suiter (Ms) or Advance CUE for )
  • 3N = stop. Might also have stop.
  • 4 = CUE for .
  • 4 = NAT F1 invites preference. (Should this deny a high-card control in a round-suit?)

Theoretically, it might be better to swap some of the meanings of 3 and 3N, But in practice, most players with a stop would bid a thoughtless 3N.


You can't do everything. For us, a 3 would show heart values - likely requesting a club stop (but may be both majors, or an advance cue bid). This, of course leaves us poorly placed and guessing, if we have a club stop but no heart stop. It would theoretically be possible to come up with a scheme such as:
3 = heart stop, but no club stop
3 = club stop, but no heart stop
3NT = stops in both
4 = 6-card spade suit
4 = Slam Invite in diamonds

Too artificial for us to remember though.

The other interesting point is that the sequence 1, 1; 3, 4; 4 is an offer to play in spades, rather than a cue bid (or response to minor-wood). I tend to agree and think that this is particularly important at MPs.
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