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How would you bid this board ? 7 tables - 9 contracts !

#1 User is offline   hallway 

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Posted 2018-October-08, 17:35

Tding a 7 table tourney the following board was played in 7 different contracts I asked around and received 2 replies and now I have 9 different contracts <_<

Sorry been a long time since I had time to post on here and I cant find the hand insert form I'm sure you can figure it out though ( looked perfect in the draft !)

North
- ----
- AKJ652
- 10 8 7
- Q854

West East
- Q1098753 - KJ62
- 10943 - Q87
- 6 2 - A3
- 3 - A1076
South
- A74
- ---
- KQJ954
- KJ92

What would be the optimum contract and why ?

Two contracts made =,
1 made + 2.

South was declarer at 4 tables , North at 2 tables and West at 1 table.

N/S Not Vul :: E/W Vul

East Opened 1C at all tables

I have promised to get them the good oil - must be a consensus somewhere ?
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Posted 2018-October-08, 22:27

Are you looking for optimum, or realistic? Optimum, is 3s by east. It plays 1 trick worse by west. 4d by NS is indestructible, I think.
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Posted 2018-October-08, 22:36

I would expect the bidding to go

1C - 1D - 2S - 3H
4S - AP

which is down 2 for -200.

If E/W aren't playing weak jump shifts (in competition), then N/S have some chance of finding 5D, but it's pretty hard.

The weak-NTers might get to 4S by East, which is only down 1.
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Posted 2018-October-08, 22:38

5 is a maker, actually. W shows out on the 2nd club so you are 100% to come back and hook the 10.
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Posted 2018-October-08, 23:12

View PostTylerE, on 2018-October-08, 22:38, said:

5 is a maker, actually. W shows out on the 2nd club so you are 100% to come back and hook the 10.

Sir,pardon me but ,there appears to be an oversight.W is on lead and certainly he is not dumb to lead a spade where no trick is expected.A club lead ,club ruff and the inescapable DA means 3 losers of the top.
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Posted 2018-October-08, 23:19

View Posthallway, on 2018-October-08, 17:35, said:

Sir,excuse me but the S7 is duplicated and W has 14 cards.
Tng a 7 table tourney the following board was played in 7 different contracts I asked around and received 2 replies and now I have 9 different contracts Posted Image

Sorry been a long time since I had time to post on here and I cant find the hand insert form I'm sure you can figure it out though ( looked perfect in the draft !)

North
- ----
- AKJ652
- 10 8 7
- Q854

West East
- Q1098753 - KJ62
- 10943 - Q87
- 6 2 - A3
- 3 - A1076
South
- A74
- ---
- KQJ954
- KJ92

What would be the optimum contract and why ?

Two contracts made =,
1 made + 2.

South was declarer at 4 tables , North at 2 tables and West at 1 table.

N/S Not Vul :: E/W Vul

East Opened 1C at all tables

I have promised to get them the good oil - must be a consensus somewhere ?

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Posted 2018-October-08, 23:21

Sir,excuse me, but the S7 is duplicated.and West has 14 cards.
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Posted 2018-October-09, 01:18

I will assume a 10 card fit for E/W as it is over four times more likely than an 11 card fit. (The board display icon is the enclosed symbol on the far right of the icons for future reference.)


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Posted 2018-October-09, 04:21

Well 5 of a minor is a very reasonable contract NS, 5 getting beaten by the club ruff, 5 is tricky to bid after the 1 opener, but might make although it seems in trouble if EW just keep playing spades.

I'm not totally familiar with how you bid this starting 1 as I would open a weak NT

I'm not clear if over 1-(1) W bids 2 or passes and if he passes whether E passes or doubles over 1 from N. It's possible NS could get a totally free run.
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Posted 2018-October-09, 06:14

Optimum contract is 5. I think this makes double dummy, while 5 is unlucky.
What happens at the table is something else entirely.
I foresee everything from 3 = to 5x -2 NS and 3 +2 to 5 -x EW
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Posted 2018-October-09, 07:09

View PostCyberyeti, on 2018-October-09, 04:21, said:

I'm not clear if over 1-(1) W bids 2 or passes and if he passes whether E passes or doubles over 1 from N. It's possible NS could get a totally free run.


Not around here. Almost everyone plays WJS also in competition, so W bids 2 without hesitation.
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Posted 2018-October-09, 07:24

View Postpescetom, on 2018-October-09, 07:09, said:

Not around here. Almost everyone plays WJS also in competition, so W bids 2 without hesitation.


We play fit rather than WJS.
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Posted 2018-October-10, 01:12

1♣ 1♦ 2♠ 3♥ 4♠ x would me my bidding with the 2♠ bid based on 6 cards being an absolute minimum.i would x the final contract with all my defensiv tricks as South with a partner who shows about 10 points. Partner should sit, since AK♥ are very good values vs 4♠.
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Posted 2018-October-10, 03:24

I think the final contract all depends on what system E/W are playing. If E/W are playing weak jump responses then they will arrive in a contract; if not, then N/S will arrive in a contract. That about sums up this board.

If West doesn't mention the s, then on values N/S should arrive in a 5 contract (as Cyberyeti rightly says) unfortunately going down on the ruff.
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Posted 2018-October-10, 06:58

Hi,

even playing WJS: I would not make the WJS as West, we are Red vs. Green, I have shortage in
partners suit.
At this colors, a WJS should show something constructive.
Bidding a WJS or a NFB with this kind of hand is one of the main reasons, WJS / NFB have such a
bad reputation.

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Posted 2018-October-16, 21:27

View PostThe_Badger, on 2018-October-09, 01:18, said:

I will assume a 10 card fit for E/W as it is over four times more likely than an 11 card fit. (The board display icon is the enclosed symbol on the far right of the icons for future reference.)




Thanks My not using the board display has caused some confusion I've made a note - M
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