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Whatís you style with these hands? Natural bidding question.

#1 User is offline   Dinarius 

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Posted 2018-September-27, 10:31

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responderís hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.
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Posted 2018-September-27, 10:39

1-1 is how we'd start, we have the advantage of playing weak NT so we can use a GF unbal 2N rebid with a semi forced 3 bid over it so we'd see:

1-1
2N-3
3-3N (3 would say no more than "I have a 5th spade" so N knows not to bid 4.

S will expect about a 20 count with 5 and 4
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Posted 2018-September-27, 10:58

Interesting.

I also opened 1♦️. Partner passed.

I rebid 2❤️ (Forcing for one round) over a 1♠️ response.

Playing strong NT, in partnerís defence, the last thing he wants to hear is a 1NT rebid by opener, with an iffy 12 count. Especially at MPs.

6♦️ is cold, but not easy to get there, I think. A bad slam at MPs anyway, I think.

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Posted 2018-September-27, 14:53

View PostDinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:58, said:

Interesting.

I also opened 1♦️. Partner passed.

I rebid 2❤️ (Forcing for one round) over a 1♠️ response.

Playing strong NT, in partner’s defence, the last thing he wants to hear is a 1NT rebid by opener, with an iffy 12 count. Especially at MPs.

6♦️ is cold, but not easy to get there, I think. A bad slam at MPs anyway, I think.


I would have opened 1 and the beer bill would be in question if he passed with that hand B-)
Over 1 I rebid 2 and then over 3 I rebid 3.
Partner would probably fight it out in 3NT although I'm hoping for 4 inviting control-bid.
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Posted 2018-September-27, 15:26

View PostDinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:58, said:

6♦️ is cold, but not easy to get there, I think. A bad slam at MPs anyway, I think.


6 should be difficult to get to as it is much worse than 50%.
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Posted 2018-September-27, 21:24

IMHO you should respond on a decent 5 pts (but not 4). Hands where opener is super-max (19-21) show why.

1D-1S
2H-2NT (leb)
3S (super-max with 3451 or 3460)-3NT (slam looks unlikely even opposite perfect cards)

The slam is pretty bad, yes. You're 50% for the heart finesse and just over 70% to pick up the trumps, so less than 40% overall - not to mention you need to ruff at least one heart. Actually MPs or IMPs barely matters as at both the odds you need to break even are 50%.

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Posted 2018-September-28, 00:20

View PostDinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:31, said:

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responderís hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

I agree with opening 1d. 1s response is close, but I strive to bid majors instead of passing a minor, also I like the tens. Switch the spades and diamonds, and I'd probably pass unless 1d-2d is natural 6-9.
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Posted 2018-September-28, 00:22

View PostDinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:31, said:

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responder's hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

Sir,I shall open 1D.Given the responders hand I shall reply 1S to the opening bid of 1D.
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Posted 2018-September-28, 07:47

View PostDinarius, on 2018-September-27, 10:31, said:

As dealer, you hold:

♠️AQ6
❤️AQT7
♦️AKQ97
♣️2

Playing a natural system, what would you open?

As responder, you hold:

♠️K874
❤️92
♦️T83
♣️QT86

If the first hand opens 1♦️, do you bid or pass?

If you disagree with 1♦️, what do you do with responder's hand, to any other opening?

Thanks.

D.

As dealer with the first hand I would open a very conservative 1 Yes you have a thrilling beautiful hand but you should also
remember you have a partner sitting opposite you. A partner who could easily hold diddly squat in which case you STILL have 21 points,
Its not yet time to get excited. A simple 1 level 'feeler' bid is whats called for here to see if there is life opposite.
On the responder hand I am too weak to reply to a 1 opening. However if partner opens 1 then I
can count an extra point for the doubleton heart and can raise to 2
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Posted 2018-September-28, 18:10

I think it's close between 1D and 2NT. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. For those who think 2NT is insane:

* You'll reach good games if partner has a decent 4 or a bad 5.
* You'll reach good games if partner can transfer to spades with a bust
* You'll reach good games if partner can Stayman with a weak hand
* You'll reach better partials if partner has major suit strength and a
weak hand

If partner opened 1D, I would bid 1S with the hand you show, but it's close. Make the Tc a small club and I'd pass

Cheers,
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Posted 2018-September-28, 22:23

Normally, over partner's 1 of a minor opener, you try to respond in major if you can and may push the minimum response a little. This is especially true if you hold only 3 or less cards in opener's suit.

I'd open the hand 1 . As responder, I'd bid 1 .

You bid 1 for several reasons.

First, if opener promises 3+ , you normally don't want to end up playing in with a 3-3 fit nor with a stiff or void in the opening suit.

Also, opener often has a 4+ card major when opening a minor, so you'd like to find the major fit if one exists. If the bidding goes

1 - 1
2 - P

you're probably in a better spot then 1 passed out.

Sometimes partner has a powerhouse hand and only has to hear any response to push forward. It's even more so after a minor opening because some hands can be awkward to bid after a strong 2 opener followed by a 3 of a minor rebid. These are more apt to be in 1 of a minor figuring they won't get passed out.

Partner's rebid may put you in a decent contract. If partner rebids 2 , you've gotten to an 8+ card fit, you pass. If partner rebids 1 NT, you pass. Of course, the hand above could occur and you'll play 2 . You plan on making minimum responses throughout and plan to pass at the first opportunity to do so unless partner makes a forcing bid.
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Posted 2018-September-28, 23:20

1D - 1S - 2H (f)- 2N (leb) - 3S (I know you want to sign off Im 3451 gf versus a sign off) - Probably 3N (without club t - 4S)
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Posted 2018-September-29, 01:57

As our 1 opening is always unbalanced, we would respond 1 as we can easily go back to diamonds if necessary.
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