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#1 User is offline   sururi50 

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Posted 2018-September-07, 07:20

Bidding goes as follow;

1H pass 1S pass
2C pass 3H pass
Now What opener w/ minimum hand should bid??

Question;
If the 3H bid is invitation or sign off?
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Posted 2018-September-07, 08:59

It's an invitation - responder could have bid 2!H but has jumped to 3 instead.

With a minimum hand, opener should pass the invitation.
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Posted 2018-September-07, 09:30

View PostDozyDom, on 2018-September-07, 08:59, said:

It's an invitation - responder could have bid 2!H but has jumped to 3 instead.

With a minimum hand, opener should pass the invitation.



thanks..
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Posted 2018-September-07, 10:08

By bidding 2 opener didn't show any extra strength, so minimum here means opening strength only.
Bear in mind that he could be quite strong all the same, up to 17 HCP in a natural system.
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Posted 2018-September-07, 10:16

It's an invitation but partner had a lot to go on before they invited (I've shown 9+ cards in the round suits) and you have a lot to go on before you pass with a mere opening count.

Ax or Kx in spades and/or a stiff diamond and I'm bidding game on a quite a few 12 counts.
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Posted 2018-September-07, 13:25

It cannot be a sign-off as responder could have bid 2H. Actually there is no sign-off bid except pass, as opener could be just below a jump shift to 3C, eg have 17 or a bad 18, and responder could be 9-10 with 4 or 5 spades and 2 hearts. On most 16+ hands, opener is likely to make another move above a 2H preference.

Some pairs even have accepted to hide a side S suit with non GF hands when they have a H fit, so for them, the sequence is highly slam invitational.

But most common treatment is game invitational, and opener with an ill-fitting minimum is encouraged to pass.
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