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Slam despite misfit?

Poll: Slam despite misfit? (30 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your call?

  1. Pass (24 votes [80.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 80.00%

  2. 4c minorwood (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  3. 4d minorwood (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. 4H ? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 4S (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  6. 4N quanti (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  7. 5c (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  8. 5S ? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  9. 6c (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  10. other (1 votes [3.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 3.33%

  11. abstain, earlier choices and/or methods are horrible (2 votes [6.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 6.67%

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#21 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2017-March-05, 15:11

View Posthelene_t, on 2017-March-02, 03:44, said:

AKxxx-xx-void-KQJTxx

Partner opens first seat r/r MP, uncontested. 1 is SA style, basically (with a 6322 shape and 15-17 she might have opened 1NT, up/downgrades are infrequent).

1-2* (*natural GF, not MAFIA)
2**-2*** (** tends to be a 6-card suit. ***3 would be splinter)
3-3
3NT-?


pass, not problem yet
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Posted 2017-March-10, 11:23

Pass. Partner didn't bid 2NT over 2 but presumably must have a double heart stop to bid 3NT. I reckon she has something like a 2-4-7-0 shape. That suggests I should be bidding on with my red suits reversed, but not here. There again, if partner is 1-4-7-1 then a spade lead might kill the entry to my hand, so it certainly could be right to play in clubs.
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Posted 2017-March-11, 14:56

THE MINORITY REPORT is back. I do not necessarily care for 4c as minorwood (vs a natural slam try) but it just seems wrong to not give this at least a looksee. There was SOME reason p felt bidding diamonds a THIRD time was more important than some number of NT over our 2s bid. These kinds of delayed NT stoppers tend to be the ace and spaces. Opener will not normally go out of their way expecting 100% of our values in the black suits AND a max 1 loser club suit that is just way too much optimism. The hand may indeed be a total misfit 1471 (opener)
but then there may be little play for 3n. My main concern is deciding between 4n and 5c if not bidding slam (after minorwood response). It is hard to accept the idea of 5c at MP and signing off in 4n might still be a winner if slam is not desirable.
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Posted 2017-March-12, 11:57

It depend on your style to handle stoppers and half stoppers. With 2 stoppers or positionnal holdings (Kxx,Qx) i would always bid 2NT before 3D even with just half a stop so for me opener is sure to have the A of H here.


Also if you play a show style rather than ask.

3H would be be half a stopper and 3S just a punt so the 56 is not showned.

If you play ask rather than 3H is asking and 3S is 5??6

3H--??

3S= half a stopper in H
3NT= full stopper in H.
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