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Posted 2003-August-07, 16:43

Sp A763
H J108
D AQ63
Cl K7

Vuln. against not sitting second seat u hear 1Sp - ur turn, what do u bid?
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Posted 2003-August-07, 16:50

Pass

Whats the problem?
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Posted 2003-August-07, 16:53

Pass - automatic
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Posted 2003-August-07, 17:23

problem is - part. doesn't know i have 14 hcp - it may go pass by opp and pass by part. with 9-11 hcp
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Posted 2003-August-07, 17:29

problem is - part. doesn't know i have 14 hcp - it may go pass by opp and pass by part. with 9-11 hcp

I trust that partner knows how to balance

If partner doesn't know how to balance, then the solution is to educate partner (if this can be done in a friendly, non-confrontational manner)

Making a call with this hand is an abomination.
If you double, you deserve to play in a 4-2 club fit.
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Posted 2003-August-07, 17:35

Like Richard says:
If the auction goes pass pass to pd and pd has a balanced 10-14 or so hand, he(?) bids 1NT. 1Nt in the pass out seat does not show 15-18. We play it as 10-15, not even necessarily with a stopper, others have a more closely defined range.

With a decent 5 card suit, pd can bid it.
Jump bids in the pass out seat should also not be pre emptive, but constructive.

I X fairly freely, but X on the hand you gave us is a bad bid.
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Posted 2003-August-07, 18:05

Looks to me as you don't have enough HCP to bid 1NT. Dbl is not an option, since you don't even have a 4 card H, and you don't want a 2C answer. So there are 2 bids left: pass or 2D. You have a good 4-card D, but red on 2-level with a 4-card is asking for troubles! And you don't have any escape suit. That means 2D is out of the question and only pass has left.

Other advantages of passing: IF they play a game, they won't know where the points are. Also after a natural bidding like 1S-p-p-? I'd never accept that my partner passes, NEVER! He can either bid 1NT with 12-14 (I don't bid 1NT with 10-11 HCP), Dbl or a 5-card. It's a bit like 1x-1y-p-p-? where partner allways has to Dbl in case I have a penalty pass.
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Posted 2003-August-07, 18:36

The best way to solve this problem is to buy Mike Lawrence's complete book on balance as a gift to your pd ;D
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Posted 2003-August-07, 21:08

Dogpiling in on this one... I join the chorus of people who PASS with this hand. This is automatic.
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Posted 2003-August-08, 03:58

Indeed, but I wanted to give an explanation why it should be automatic :P
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Posted 2003-August-08, 05:33

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Indeed, but I wanted to give an explanation why it should be automatic :P


Hi Free,

From this reply I am afraid you might have thought my reply about dogpilling was aimed at you as in, why are you dogpilling..... Nothing could be further from the truth... I meant that I was jumping in on the pile myself and I was adding my voice to the chorus of the correct bid with the hand was to PASS... sorry for any confusion, if you thought my comment was in anyway directed towards you. If you didn't, then, as emily natila (spelling) use to say on Sat night live..."oh, never mind."
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Posted 2003-August-08, 05:50

Pass (*Bored*)
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Posted 2003-August-11, 01:01

Pass
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