[Lovera]

The vul situation is : love all. Partner (dealer) open 1♠ (opp pass) and you have:♣A♦AK98♥AQ10984♠54. What is your responsive bidding ?

[mr1303]

Assuming 2/1, I bid 2H. Assuming something else, I check my convention card first...

[Kaitlyn S]

mr1303, on 2016-December-25, 08:44, said:

Assuming 2/1, I bid 2H. Assuming something else, I check my convention card first...

I would bid 2H whether playing 2/1 or not.

Also, surprised nobody got dinged by the problem and bid diamonds. Usually the order is S, H, D, C so people might erroneously think the long suit is diamonds.

[nullve]

Kaitlyn S, on 2016-December-25, 10:53, said:

Usually the order is S, H, D, C so people might erroneously think the long suit is diamonds.

Yes. Nice trick question, Lovera!

[Lovera]

Yes, but let' s return about topic bidding (with the long suit heart).

[wank]

very interesting hand lovera: a tricky decision as to whether to make a forcing bid in one's longest suit or go down the pub.

[msjennifer]

2Heart! What's the problem?,
Heavier the load,the slower goes the train!

[Cyberyeti]

You might find an old Acol player who bids 3♥, the rest of the world bids 2♥

[Lovera]

In accordling to my system and with this (more of 23 points) very strong hand (only 3 losers) i bid (preparing me to follow ..) 3♥ than jumping, opp pass, but partner instead says 4♣ that although is not cue but nat suit (and i feel as to be near Pole..) showing an (almost !) 5-4 in the blacks (opp silent). To you.

[mr1303]

Kaitlyn S, on 2016-December-25, 10:53, said:

I would bid 2H whether playing 2/1 or not.

Also, surprised nobody got dinged by the problem and bid diamonds. Usually the order is S, H, D, C so people might erroneously think the long suit is diamonds.

Actually I did bid 2D originally, but realised my mistake and edited my post.

Incidentally I wouldn't make a 3H bid if it was a SJS on this hand, as diamonds may be better.

[Vampyr]

Lovera, on 2016-December-26, 03:10, said:

In accordling to my system and with this (more of 23 points) very strong hand (only 3 losers) i bid (preparing me to follow ..) 3♥ than jumping, opp pass, but partner instead says 4♣ that although is not cue but nat suit (and i feel as to be near Pole..) showing an (almost !) 5-4 in the blacks (opp silent). To you.

Considering that no one has so far bid 3♥, the only possible answer to this question is "abstain". You have got uncomfortably high and have no room to eg agree on a strain.

[GrahamJson]

As an Acol player even I would bid 2H. It's a classic example of when not to jump; too strong and with a second suit that isn't the one opened.

[mr1303]

If you make a SJS, you need it to be well defined. Either a solid suit, setting trumps, or a strong 2 suiter including partner's suit.

[Joe_Old]

I believe GIB plays Soloway jump shifts (good suit, usually 6+, 17+ points). If it's in your system, that's my bid. Otherwise 2♥.

[nullve]

1♠-2♥; 2♠ is probably the most interesting start from Responder's point of view.

[Lovera]

Vampyr, on 2016-December-26, 05:04, said:

Considering that no one has so far bid 3♥, the only possible answer to this question is "abstain". You have got uncomfortably high and have no room to eg agree on a strain.

I can be with you but there is an explanation. I too thought it but was strong and than quite (at that time).

[Lovera]

mr1303, on 2016-December-26, 06:55, said:

If you make a SJS, you need it to be well defined. Either a solid suit, setting trumps, or a strong 2 suiter including partner's suit.

And partner was an occasional advanced.

[Lovera]

Joe_Old, on 2016-December-26, 08:57, said:

I believe GIB plays Soloway jump shifts (good suit, usually 6+, 17+ points). If it's in your system, that's my bid. Otherwise 2♥.

It was not GIB.

[johnu]

Joe_Old, on 2016-December-26, 08:57, said:

I believe GIB plays Soloway jump shifts (good suit, usually 6+, 17+ points). If it's in your system, that's my bid. Otherwise 2♥.

Maybe GIB would make a jump shift with this hand, but it does not come close to a Soloway jump shift by my standards because

1) The heart suit is too ratty
2) Diamonds may be the best trump suit
3) Spades may be the best trump suit.

[johnu]

Lovera, on 2016-December-26, 03:10, said:

In accordling to my system and with this (more of 23 points) very strong hand (only 3 losers)

Is this new math? I count only 17 HCP and at least 4 losers.