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Posted 2005-April-02, 14:50

Scoring: IMP

S: 5D
Lead: C2 to your 8 and declarer's 3



This hand came up in the Danish Team Championships.

At one table West opened a weak 2♠, North passed and you pre-empted further with 3♠. South overcalled a natural 3NT and was raised to 4NT. South then took out in 5♦ (explained as natural).

After a long huddle your partner leads ♣2, and you overcome the first hurdle by inserting the 8 which holds the trick. What do you do at trick 2 and why?

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Posted 2005-April-02, 15:55

tough one... was 3nt to play or did it promise the minors?
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Posted 2005-April-02, 17:04

luke warm, on Apr 2 2005, 04:55 PM, said:

tough one... was 3nt to play or did it promise the minors?

"South overcalled a natural 3NT"
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Posted 2005-April-02, 19:21

oops, sorry bout that

i'm guessing pard is 6034 so i'd lead the ♥4
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Posted 2005-April-02, 23:29

do we play third and fifth or fourth
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Posted 2005-April-03, 00:12

99 and 44/100% asleep here, but will venture an answer and make self look bad:

Low club trick 2. Kill one entry, possibly set up a club trick if P led from KTx. I await the correct answer with anticipation. suspect P more susceptible to a squeeze than my hand...oh, well: anyone for a round of golf?
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Posted 2005-April-03, 00:34

Jlall, on Apr 3 2005, 12:29 AM, said:

do we play third and fifth or fourth

4th from Hxxx, low from Hxx
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Posted 2005-April-03, 09:37

It looks like declarer holds: Qxx, AK, AKQxx, xxx, so I need to lead back a low club to take out the entry and get our trick set up before declarer can unblock hearts.

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Posted 2005-April-03, 13:45

Scoring: IMP

S: 5D
Lead: C2 to your 8 and declarer's 3


Very good analysis Winston!

The queen of hearts will be left stranded if you take dummy's entry away. Declarer's diamonds are too good!

How can I know that partner does not have 4 clubs and that he is not void in hearts? You can't be sure of course, but there are a few things that tell you that the two unknown hands are as they were in real life.

1. Would partner have led the deuce of clubs if he was void in hearts? Would he not have led a higher club, alternatively underled his ace of spades in the hope of getting a heart ruff?

2. Would declarer have played low from dummy if he had a doubleton club? Probably not, because he wouldn't have given the defence a chance to get a heart ruff then.

This points towards the killing defence (if there is one). East got it wrong at the table and tried to give partner a heart ruff. Inserting the 8 at trick 1 was both good and courageous, but he fell from grace 1 minute later.

It's so much easier in the post-mortem, is it not?.

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Posted 2005-April-03, 16:01

Actually, it doesn't matter that the diamonds are too good to overtake because of the 3-1 break; after a club return, if declarer unblocks hearts and enters dummy with a fourth round, he may pitch a club, but we will end up with 2 spade tricks as there are no more trumps in dummy with which to ruff; if he tries to lead toward the K of spades after unblocking hearts, it is easy for pard to rise and lead another club.

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Posted 2005-April-03, 19:29

Nice, but when I first saw the hand I jsut thoug, ♣8 held the trick, continuing this suit looks good, some hands are just easy :)
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Posted 2005-April-08, 15:17

easy hand once your 8♣ wins, obviously you must return a club in this case.
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