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#1 User is offline   antonylee 

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Posted 2016-January-16, 18:22


Agree with 3? What now?


How many spades?
EDIT: If you choose 1, what's your general plan for the followups? Jump to 3/4? Compete at the lowest level?


Double? (what do you do over 3?) Trap pass? 2N?


4 would be 5M5. Do you pretend you mis-sorted?


Invite? (you can show shortness) Blast to game?
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Posted 2016-January-16, 20:55

1) 5c give up on slam...nice if 4nt promise this hand but doubtful
2) 1s no problem yet
3) neg x barely....
4) 4d...yes
5) 4s....blast vul.
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Posted 2016-January-16, 22:25

1) I'll underbid with 4; it's not as much an underbid as if RHO passed.
2) I think 1 followed by 4 shows this hand.
3) I negative double, but I think 3 from partner shows extras
4) Double for me - I would bid 4 if one of my hearts was a club or vice versa.
5) I have a short suit invite; I use it. Without I might blast. I'm not sure what kinds of hands you're saving a short suit invite for if you're not using it here.
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Posted 2016-January-16, 22:30

View Postakwoo, on 2016-January-16, 22:25, said:

I'm not sure what kinds of hands you're saving a short suit invite for if you're not using it here.

You might decide that this hand is too strong for a short suit invite (planning to respect partner's signoff) (see mike777's answer).
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Posted 2016-January-17, 02:11

hand 1 - 4n we can easily have slam
hand 2 - 1s seems normal enough
hand 3 - start with x - tricky over pd's 3c probably just punt 3n
hand 4 - 3s - feels like a bit of an underbid but meh
hand 5 - easiest one of the lot: 4s imo not bidding game on this hand vul at imps is terrible
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Posted 2016-January-17, 15:40

View Postantonylee, on 2016-January-16, 22:30, said:

You might decide that this hand is too strong for a short suit invite (planning to respect partner's signoff) (see mike777's answer).


I understand that. But I'm having trouble figuring what hand one would think is the right strength for a short suit invite if you think this one is too strong. Just about every hand weaker than this I would consider too weak for a short suit invite!
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Posted 2016-January-17, 18:08


Agree with 3? What now?

Over (2) ?? I rank
1. Pass = WAITING. Hoping to have a later opportunity to bid an UNT.
2. 3 = NAT
3. 3 = NAT To get both suits in the frame.
Over (3) ?? I rank
1. 4 = NAT (Partner's double of 3 is likely to be penalty).
2. 4N = ??? Ambiguous and an overbid.

How many spades? If you choose 1, what's your general plan for the followups? Jump to 3/4? Compete at the lowest level?

Over (1) ?? I rank
1. 1 = NAT.
2. 4 = PRE. Terence Reese would approve "A pre-empt, known to be weak, is a blunt sword"
3. 3 = JUMP CUE = Good hand good suit.
4. Double = T/O. Misdescriptive.
After overcalling 1, if you get another chance, I suppose you bid 4.

Double? (what do you do over 3?) Trap pass? 2N?

Over (1 (2) ?? I rank
1. Double = NEG
2, Pass = TRAP,
3. 2N = NAT overbid.
Over 1 (2) Double (Pass) 3 (Pass) ?? I rank
1. 3 = NAT.
2. 3N = NAT.

4 would be 5M5. Do you pretend you mis-sorted?

Over (3) ?? I rank
1. 4 = ART. Michaels. Best compromise in cramped auction.
2. 3 = NAT. Underbid
3. Double = T/O. Misdescriptive.
4. 3N = NAT. But no stop.
5. 4 = NAT Misdescriptive overbid.

Invite? (you can show shortness) Blast to game?

I kibitzed the unlucky result on this hand at the other table. Over partner's 2, I rank
1. 3 = TRIAL. Don't like 3 = SPL (although it might work here) because it invites belated competition.
2. 4 = PRE. Meckstroth recommended blasting when you have 6+.
3. 3 = INV?/PRE?
4. Pass = NAT. Timorous,

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Posted 2016-January-18, 03:04

4D, 1S, x then 3H, 3S, 4S

That 18 count is not as good as it looks, with poor shape and suit quality (recall things are likely to split badly). 3S is an underbid but 4D or X then 3S are overbids.

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Posted 2016-January-18, 05:58

1. Having started with 3, 4 now seems easy enough. It is impossible to comment on whether this was the best route without knowing the defence being used. It would also be good if the description contained the proper definition as multi is insufficient.
2. 1 is clear. Follow-ups depends on what happens next, in particular whether we are in constructive or destructive mode.
3. Just about worth a double. 3 the next time around.
4. Double looks obvious with a strong flexible hand.
5. Unlike Roland, I find this one fairly close. If you can trust partner to bid game very aggressively then the trial might well be best but just bidding 4 is probably the right practical decision.
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Posted 2016-January-18, 10:41

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Posted 2016-January-19, 02:37

View PostZelandakh, on 2016-January-18, 05:58, said:

1. Having started with 3, 4 now seems easy enough. It is impossible to comment on whether this was the best route without knowing the defence being used. It would also be good if the description contained the proper definition as multi is insufficient.

Edited: weak-only multi. We were playing ACBL defense 2 (we're not playing against multi often enough to make it worth it to have our own custom defense I'd say).
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Posted 2016-January-22, 19:44

1- Agree 3, 4 now. This is not an underbid. I overcalled at 3 level red vs white, now i am bidding 4!D a free bid when my pd still has a turn.

2-Easy 1, don't know why you asked this. Continuation depends on how it proceeds.

3-I would double and correct 3 to 3

4-Perfect double and then bid spades if pd responds hearts. This shows a strong hand with spades and alternatives to play such as in diamonds or NT, or I would start 4 or 3. I would not mind 3 but i think it is misguided.

5-4 of course. You are playing TM and you have more than minimum excuse to bid game.
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