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how high do you go?

Poll: how high? (35 member(s) have cast votes)

what is your rebid

  1. 3h (13 votes [37.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.14%

  2. 4h (9 votes [25.71%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 25.71%

  3. other (13 votes [37.14%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 37.14%

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#1 User is offline   luckyloser 

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Posted 2015-December-19, 10:23

matchpoints, better minor, all red

Axx
AKQJ10x
Q109
Q

rho passes, you open 1, p responds 1, what now?
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Posted 2015-December-19, 13:07

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2d

fwiw I play partner should strain to make another bid here once I shift suits.

With a bit weaker hand I would rebid 3h, with a minimum hand I would rebid 2h or 2s and not shift suits.

If I can just get past this round :)
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Posted 2015-December-19, 14:07

I'd open 2N without agreements.
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Posted 2015-December-19, 22:36

I'll rebid 3. Game must at least be percentage at this vulnerability, and this shows my general strength and let's partner suggest a contract.
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Posted 2015-December-20, 03:03

I would bid 3.
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Posted 2015-December-20, 05:25

3.

I want to be in game.
Anyway a slight overbid is almost always the right choice when it gives us more leeway to find the best strain.
3NT can be very profitable at matchpoints and I want to be there if partner bids it over 3.
And if partner rebids his spades over 3 I am pretty sure we belong in spades, not in hearts.
Having forced to game I also need not worry missing slam.

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Posted 2015-December-20, 06:21

3c: Raise to 4h if Partner goes 3h or 3n, and convert any minor suit reply to Spades at same level.
Partner knows my strength & go looking for a slam if he wants
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Posted 2015-December-20, 07:04

View PostPaddyi, on 2015-December-20, 06:21, said:

3c: Raise to 4h if Partner goes 3h or 3n, and convert any minor suit reply to Spades at same level.
Partner knows my strength & go looking for a slam if he wants


Hi
Welcome to BBF.
3=? Normally 3 should show 4 card suit,what is your 3 singleton for?
1- Opener has 6 losers,if partner responded 1 with mini strength,it is difficult for your partner to provide 3 extra tricks.
2- After responding 1,it does not necessarily mean that your hand could upgrade to game forcing.
3- Preference of game : 4, 4 or 3nt, which is best contract?
After 3,if responder rebid 3 showing 5-card ,you can bid 4.
After 3,responder maybe bid 3nt,it will be great news for sure,you have a solid 6-card to provide enough tricks.
Preference of games is one of main advantages of natural system.
Don't guess,guess always is worse part of this game.
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Posted 2015-December-20, 09:10

With regular partners, our style is that the 2nd bid by opener must be the one that most accurately describes the hand.

In this case, opener has a self sufficient heart suit, and game values (19+) in that suit as responder must have 6 minimum for his bid.

The lone club eliminates a 2NT bid, as does the 6th heart.
3H is an underbid, imo.

Personal preference eliminates mis-describing the shape of the hand with with any D or C bid. I see no benefit in a temprizing bid here.

4C as a splinter is a possibility, but seems rather pointless here without a known fit.

4H best describes the hand to responder and he has options to investigate slam should he have more strength than the promised minimum.
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Posted 2015-December-20, 12:18

A nice borderline hand.

3 for me with 18 HCP and an ugly Q singleton. If partner has points, we will get where we should be. If not, 3 may be just where we belong.

4 I find acceptable but it's kind of a gamble anticipating the contract where we will probably end up anyway.

3 if you give me A109 x which has much more potential than the original hand.

2 is great if your partnership agreements permit, but I don't usually play that. I'm afraid I might pass with an 8-HCP 4243 hand.
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Posted 2015-December-20, 15:26

Rather not start from here ty
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Posted 2015-December-21, 00:24

I'm also bidding 3 here.
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Posted 2015-December-21, 00:32

View Postluckyloser, on 2015-December-19, 10:23, said:

matchpoints, better minor, all red

Axx
AKQJ10x
Q109
Q

rho passes, you open 1, p responds 1, what now?


3H
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Posted 2015-December-21, 02:21

3 Showing 7 playing tricks and a solid suit. This is NOT forcing but
highly invitational.Partner should regard the 3rebid as though it were a pre-empt
and not go into NTs unless he has the outside suits stopped.
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Posted 2015-December-21, 02:47

View Postfourdad, on 2015-December-20, 09:10, said:

3H is an underbid, imo.

Personal preference eliminates mis-describing the shape of the hand with with any D or C bid. I see no benefit in a temprizing bid here.

4C as a splinter is a possibility, but seems rather pointless here without a known fit.

4H best describes the hand to responder and he has options to investigate slam should he have more strength than the promised minimum.

1- you said 3H is an underbid.
See opener hand,Q is a wasted point,actually opener only has 16 working points.After responding 1,can you perfectly confirm opener can get 10 tricks in this hand with 6 losers if play 4?

AQx
AKQJ10x
Q109
x
If opener really hold this hand,I think jump 3 as a GF bid is reasonable since 18hcp of opener hand is working very well.

2- you said 4C as a splinter is a possibility, but seems rather pointless here without a known fit.
On the contrary,4 as a splinter is not a possibility for sure,4 splinter for what?

3- you said 4H best describes the hand to responder and he has options to investigate slam should he have more strength than the promised minimum.
On the contrary,4= I have already finished my story,I have no extra values to tell you in the minimum hand instead of with bad 18hcp.

3 says I have a good 6-card suit with good 15hcp - 18hcp.
I am wondering why don't jump 3 normally.
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Posted 2015-December-21, 06:21

A 5 loser hand and a self-supporting heart suit. 4h describes the hand correctly. If partner has a better than minimum hand he can go on. 3h would not be forcing and I would hate not to be in game. There is also support for partners spade suit which improves the hand. A jump switch would be forcing but where would it take us? I can't agree with those that think 4c would be a splinter. Even if you play splinters in this situation would it not be agreeing spades as trumps?
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