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Try for game?

Poll: Try for game? (19 member(s) have cast votes)

Bid on?

  1. Pass (3 votes [15.79%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 15.79%

  2. 3S (1 votes [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  3. 3N (14 votes [73.68%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 73.68%

  4. Other (1 votes [5.26%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2015-November-19, 11:29

You hold

♠ KQT9x
♥ AKJ
♦ QJx
♣ xx

IMPs, all vul.

Partner (me) opens 3C, first in, passed to you. What's your call, and how close is it?

My preempting style in this position is relatively sound. Usually a 7 card suit, but not a guarantee, probably fairly pure (ie decent offence-defence ratio).
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Posted 2015-November-19, 11:31

I'll try 3S, and pass 4C if it comes back. I would not be surprised in the least if pass was the winning action though.
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Posted 2015-November-19, 12:45

I'd just bid 3N and donate 100's like I generally do.
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Posted 2015-November-19, 13:41

IMP scoring dictates that you should bid game anytime that game has a 35% or more chance of making.

AK seventh, stiff A and partner holding KQJ seventh, AQJ seventh with K onside are possible combinations that partner might hold that make 3 NT a pretty good bet. In addition, partner MIGHT hold a properly positioned ♠ J or the ♥ Q as a possible entry if they hold up in ♣.

So, there seem to be quite a few card combinations where 3 NT will make. You do have pretty good stoppers in all the suits.

You might bid 3 ♠ to try to find a ♠ game, but that may get you past the last makeable game of 3 NT if partner rebids 4 ♣.

It's a guess, but time to be aggressive and bid 3 NT.
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Posted 2015-November-19, 14:20

I see no reason (well not much) for a 5-3 spade fit to play better than 3nt and 1 trick higher and my partner might raise with 2 of them.

As others point out the imp odds favor a game bid so 3nt it is.
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Posted 2015-November-19, 18:27

Pass
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Posted 2015-November-19, 18:35

View PostJinksy, on 2015-November-19, 11:29, said:

IMPs, all vul, you hold ♠ K Q T 9 x ♥ A K J ♦ Q J x ♣ x x
Partner (me) opens 3C, first in, passed to you. What's your call, and how close is it?
My preempting style in this position is relatively sound. Usually a 7 card suit, but not a guarantee, probably fairly pure (ie decent offence-defence ratio).
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1. Pass. Phantomsac persuades me again.
2. 3N. Rmnka447 might be right.
3. 3♠. But Ggwhiz worries about 4 losers at the 4-level, even if we have a fit.
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Posted 2015-November-19, 18:43

View Postrmnka447, on 2015-November-19, 13:41, said:

IMP scoring dictates that you should bid game anytime that game has a 35% or more chance of making.


This is not true when you go down multiple when you go down (as is often the case on a hand like this).
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Posted 2015-November-19, 19:20

I'm going to do something dangerous and disagree with Justin on a bridge related topic.

Partner has opened 3♣ vulnerable
Folks often strain to lead a major against 3N and I have both majors double stopped

I think that there are enough chances to wriggle home to 9 tricks that I am willing to risk it...
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Posted 2015-November-20, 00:06

I only have small doubleton in ♣,very bad support,no fit,no trick, we are difficult to get 9 tricks,so pass .
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