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What to open with 21-count?

Poll: What to open with 21-count? (34 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you open?

  1. 1S (7 votes [20.59%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 20.59%

  2. 2C (27 votes [79.41%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 79.41%

  3. 2N (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Pass in a voice of thunder (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#21 User is offline   eagles123 

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Posted 2015-October-29, 12:41

I really don't understand opening this hand 1s, with a fitting yarbrough from P we could have game and it's not like we have some kinda rebid problem. Yes it's a minimum but we're allowed to have a minimum.
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Posted 2015-October-29, 21:09

View PostCyberyeti, on 2015-October-29, 08:09, said:

Do you play the style common here that any rebid other than 2N after a 2♣ opener is GF ?

I play this with 2♥showing a bust and 2♦being GF with several partners around here. http://home.comcast....dge/bb/b_2c.htm

2♣-2♥-2♠ is not GF for me.
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Posted 2015-October-29, 21:49

View Postaguahombre, on 2015-October-29, 11:51, said:

When you finish calculating the odds, then calculate in the odds that the opponents with half the deck and three 8-card fits will remain silent.

Are you telling me you opened 1♠ smoothly?
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Posted 2015-October-29, 22:53

View PostKurtGodel, on 2015-October-29, 21:49, said:

Are you telling me you opened 1♠ smoothly?

I would with the given hand. Right or wrong, I have had plenty of practice opening the bidding and can manage to do so smoothly. Just decide what to call and then grab it from the box.
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Posted 2015-October-30, 10:23

I'm looking at a 4 loser hand, so will open a strong 2 ♣ in a flash.

I play a 2 ♦ response is waiting and cheapest suit rebid by responder is 2nd negative. Thus, 2 NT is 5-20 unspecified positive. Other suit rebids by responder show a suit feature and are forward going. They are limited by immediate positive suit responses over 2 ♣ -- 2 M = 5+ with 2 honors, 1 1/2+ QTs, 3 m = 5+ with 2 of top 3 honors and 2+ QTs. Single raise of opener's rebid promises Hxx or xxxx and 8+ points. Raise to game is a shutout. With other fitting hands, responder makes the 2 NT positive then raises.

So,

2 ♣ - 2 ♦
2 ♠ - 3 ♣
3 ♠

could be passed.

I'm not a big fan of immediate 2 ♥ response as an immediate negative. There are quite a few hands ( like two suiters ) where opener faces a difficult rebid problem realizing it will probably be passed.
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