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Now what? Matchpoints decision

Poll: Now what? Matchpoints decision (12 member(s) have cast votes)

What would you do now?

  1. Pass (1 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  2. Double (9 votes [75.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 75.00%

  3. 2NT (1 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  4. 3NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. 3D (1 votes [8.33%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.33%

  6. Other (what?) (0 votes [0.00%])

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#1 User is offline   diana_eva 

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Posted 2015-September-10, 16:10

Matchpoints. Good partner.



What would you do now? Feel free to mention if you'd have done something else earlier.

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Posted 2015-September-10, 16:30

diana_eva asks" Matchpoints. Good partner.
What would you do now? Feel free to mention if you'd have done something else earlier."

Presumably you treat partners's double of 2 as penalty although some partnerships might play it as take-out.
LHO has advertised 4 s and at least 6 s. I rank your options:
1. Double. A suggestion.
2. Pass. In case West knows what he's doing.
3. 3. In pursuit of a plus score.
4. 2N. Although you don't relish East's lead.
5. 3N. In for a penny ....

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Posted 2015-September-10, 16:36

Yes, if partner's double was penalty, which I would suspect it was undiscussed, then double now. If it was takeout, I would have bid 3 a round earlier.
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Posted 2015-September-10, 17:25

I'm also doubling at MPs. You're looking at 8 HCP and partner has shown 15+ HCP BEHIND opener. So your side has the majority of HCP in this hand. But partner doesn't know this. Now's the time to tell him/her.
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Posted 2015-September-10, 18:11

Its only 1 board x here. It looks like lho is 64 majors and rho is probably 23 majors. P inability to x 2s means they are heavy favorite to have good minor suit lead and declarer will play hand w/o ever reaching dummy (we hope). Expecting 4M and 2m tricks and maybe 1 more if lucky. Would pass at IMPS
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Posted 2015-September-10, 18:27

View Postrmnka447, on 2015-September-10, 17:25, said:

I'm also doubling at MPs. You're looking at 8 HCP and partner has shown 15+ HCP BEHIND opener. So your side has the majority of HCP in this hand. But partner doesn't know this. Now's the time to tell him/her.

Exactly if you can't double here your aren't doubling enough.
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Posted 2015-September-10, 23:49

With a 8 HCP and a chunky 5c suit, a lot of people would make a forward going move on the first round. Taking the low road is fine at MPs but now you definitely need to double and protect your score.

Declarer should have approximately 6412 and playing the hand without any communication, 8 tricks would be a miracle.
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Posted 2015-September-11, 05:53

Thanks for the replies. Just a sanity check thread. I was North and my partner doubled. It so happened that 2 made, and I wanted to check whether we missed something. I'd also X with his hand FWIW, and thought it was clear to do so.



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Posted 2015-September-11, 08:45

View PostWesleyC, on 2015-September-10, 23:49, said:

Declarer should have approximately 6412 and playing the hand without any communication, 8 tricks would be a miracle.
It's a miracle! :)
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Posted 2015-September-11, 09:25

If every time you double they go down your not doubling enough.
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Posted 2015-September-11, 10:23

View Poststeve2005, on 2015-September-11, 09:25, said:

If every time you double they go down your not doubling enough.

That is true. However, if every time you double they run to a making contract, you are doubling too much.

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Posted 2015-September-11, 11:41

View Postdiana_eva, on 2015-September-11, 05:53, said:

Thanks for the replies. Just a sanity check thread. I was North and my partner doubled. It so happened that 2 made, and I wanted to check whether we missed something. I'd also X with his hand FWIW, and thought it was clear to do so.




South forgot to bid 3N opposite a NT overcall at his first turn! :)

But seriously, you have to at least invite opposite an overcall. An over call tends to be a touch stronger than an opening. As it is, you will go off if they lead a spade and make if they lead a club, which is not unlikely on the layout. If partners spades were KTx that would be enough!

As it is pass has worked really well as you are happy to double. It makes because you are very unlucky to have so much concentration in diamonds. I would double all day in this position.
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Posted 2015-September-11, 12:55

View PostTrinidad, on 2015-September-11, 10:23, said:

That is true. However, if every time you double they run to a making contract, you are doubling too much.

Indeed. Although in this case, the intent is clearly to double any contract.

Also I see that north doubled 2 before he knew that south had anything at all. Is this good procedure?


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Posted 2015-September-11, 14:43

View Postbillw55, on 2015-September-11, 12:55, said:

Indeed. Although in this case, the intent is clearly to double any contract.

Also I see that north doubled 2 before he knew that south had anything at all. Is this good procedure?

IMHO this is good procedure at matchpoints. "Matchpoints. An interesting game. Sometimes it's even like bridge." Robert Wolff.
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