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Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

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Posted 2021-January-28, 07:29

Jonathan Bernstein at Bloomberg said:

Former President Donald Trump, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and their GOP colleagues tried their best to leave the federal judicial bench as full as possible before Democrats took control of the White House and Congress this month. Trump’s speed in nominating judges was one of his strengths as a president. Yet vacancies remained and new ones have already opened up.

Huffpost’s Jennifer Bendery has the story: Thirteen judges have already retired since the November election. Five of those left during the first week of the Joe Biden presidency. Five were chosen by President George W. Bush. That’s the most interesting part. It’s not surprising that judges selected by Democrats would wait until Trump was out of the White House to retire, but apparently a handful of Republican-nominated judges either preferred being replaced by a Democrat to having Trump pick their successor, or at least were willing to let that happen.

The first challenge for Biden concerning judicial appointments will be to move as fast as Trump did, rather than revert to the slower nomination pace of President Barack Obama. Biden knows that the Democrats’ Senate majority is as tenuous as it can be, and may not last long. He knows, too, that in 2015-2016, Senate Republicans used their majority to shut down judicial nominations, notably by refusing to consider Obama’s choice of Judge Merrick Garland to fill the Supreme Court seat vacated by the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, but extending to federal appeals court and district court nominations as well.

The Bush nominees who retired recently suggest another tough set of decisions for Biden. His administration so far has been filled with mainstream liberals. Most Democrats will expect the same from the judges he selects, and it certainly seems likely that the majority of Biden’s judicial choices will reflect the party’s philosophical preferences. No doubt his Supreme Court choice, if he gets one soon (with Justice Stephen Breyer a good bet to retire strategically with a Democrat in the White House), will be very liberal.

But ideology has typically been less of a requirement at the district court level. It seems possible that if Biden shows more diversity of approaches in his picks there, he might induce more Republican-nominated judges, especially those who are unenthusiastic about the current radicalization of their own party, to retire sooner. Or Republican-nominated judges who are ready to retire but might otherwise hang on through the 2024 elections might instead allow Biden to replace them. It’s unclear how many judges fit in that category, but I suspect there are some, especially after the last 10 weeks of Trump’s presidency.

The flip side of that approach is that Biden wouldn’t be maximizing the ideological advantages the party could get from the vacancies that show up early. So it’s not easy to know what the best path might be. Other than one thing that is certain: Whatever choices he makes, keeping judicial nominations a priority and filling them quickly is the best strategy.

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Posted 2021-January-28, 08:48

For those whose belief is that presidents are responsible for the economy’s growth, in 2020 the economy shrank 3.5%.
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Posted 2021-January-28, 10:55

Here is part of an article from Yahoo about a Catholic priest who live-streamed an exorcism to rid the demons involved in the election process:



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In one of the live-streams, Rev Zuhlsdorf said: "I think it's amply clear, there's enough evidence to demonstrate that there was fraud in some places, and people had to commit that fraud, it didn't happen by itself."

He added: "As exorcists will confirm, the demons are very good with electronic equipment," seemingly referencing false claims from Mr Trump's allies that voting machines were rigged in favour of President Joe Biden on 3 November.

Despite the repeated claims from Mr Trump and several prominent Republican figures, there is no evidence of widespread fraud in last year's election.

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Just Quit. Quit saying "no evidence"!. When you do that, you suggest in might have happened if only..... So just knock it off.

There was no fraud - it's bullhockey. That's all you have to write or say. Period.

"No evidence" helps keep The Big Lie alive and kicking. So quit it.
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Posted 2021-January-28, 12:20

View PostWinstonm, on 2021-January-28, 08:48, said:

For those whose belief is that presidents are responsible for the economy’s growth, in 2020 the economy shrank 3.5%.

Of course if you ask Trump, he'll point out that the economy was booming for the first 3 years of his administration, then China sent the coronavirus and there was nothing he could do about that.

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Posted 2021-January-28, 14:03

View Postbarmar, on 2021-January-28, 12:20, said:

Of course if you ask Trump, he'll point out that the economy was booming for the first 3 years of his administration, then China sent the coronavirus and there was nothing he could do about that.


Why would you ask a pathological liar what he thought?

PS: the booming economy turns out to have boomed about as much as the Obama economy - although neither president really has a causal relationship, just an anecdotal one. But for grins consider this:

employment per month average-----------Annual GDP-------------------------------------------------------------S&P Level
2012 -181 2016 -195 ------------------- 2012 -2.2 2016 - 1.7---------------------------Obama takes office: 805-------------Trump takes office: 2271
2013 -192 2017 -176 ------------------- 2013 -1.8 2017 -2.3----------------------------Obama leaves: 2271------------------Trump leaves: 3444
2014 -250 2018 -193 ------------------- 2014 -2.5 2018 -3.0
2015 -227 2019 -178 ------------------- 2015 -3.1 2019 -2.2


Great economy? Best of all time?

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Posted 2021-January-28, 14:18

There was a film many years ago called 'The Ruling Class'.
In the film, a man - who believes - (probably falsely) that he is Jesus Christ - becomes the Lord of a large estate in Britain.
Nothing unusual there I hear you cry, well apparently his relatives disagreed.
They called in a psychiatrist.

The psychiatrist suggested that they find another person who also believed he was Christ and put them together in the same room.
The two would then realise that logically it was impossible for two people to be Christ and they would both be cured.

Incredibly it worked! The Lord decided that obviously, he wasn't Jesus Christ, he must be Jack the Ripper instead.

In America when this happens he would be banished to a golf course in Florida.

You might think this story is fanciful. My Father (an actual psychiatrist) told me that the film was based on a true story.

In real life, both men (of course they were men) just sat at opposite ends of the room, because obviously, the other one was completely mad.

You can watch the whole film here: http://bit.ly/TheRulingClass1972.

In real life, neither of the men had to go to Florida.
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Posted 2021-January-30, 11:39

Cruise and Zellweger preenact McCarthy's meeting with Trump:

https://youtu.be/NpWAlvWNZj0
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Posted 2021-January-30, 15:07

View Posty66, on 2021-January-30, 11:39, said:

Cruise and Zellweger preenact McCarthy's meeting with Trump:

https://youtu.be/NpWAlvWNZj0


No, I think Juaquin Phoenix exemplifies every Republican's encounter with Trump.
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Posted 2021-January-31, 13:29

Tommy Tubberville, about Alabama, should quote Victor Mollo's foreward to The Bridge Menagerie:

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If they have picked the wrong man, the blame is theirs, not mine. I have weighed all the facts carefully and I acquit myself unanimously.

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Posted 2021-February-01, 08:35

It is good to see that traditionally repressive countries like Myanmar are now following the American model of democracy. We should all congratulate DJT and the GOP on making the USA once more a shining beacon for other countries around the world.
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Posted 2021-February-01, 12:52

View PostZelandakh, on 2021-February-01, 08:35, said:

It is good to see that traditionally repressive countries like Myanmar are now following the American model of democracy. We should all congratulate DJT and the GOP on making the USA once more a shining beacon for other countries around the world.


Of course, Myanmar is better at coups - their's was successful. Guess they didn't have a Loser in charge.
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Posted 2021-February-02, 05:48

Anne Karni and Mike Baker at NYT said:

https://www.nytimes....esultPosition=1

WASHINGTON — Knute Buehler, who led Oregon’s Republican ticket as the candidate for governor in 2018, watched with growing alarm in recent weeks as Republicans around the nation challenged the reliability of the presidential election results.

Then he watched the Jan. 6 siege at the United States Capitol in horror. And then, to his astonishment, Republican Party officials in his own state embraced the conspiracy theory that the attack was actually a left-wing “false flag” plot to frame Trump supporters.

The night after his party’s leadership passed a formal resolution promoting the false flag theory, Mr. Buehler cracked open a local microbrew and filed to change his registration from Republican to independent. “It was very painful,” he said.

His unhappy exit highlighted one facet of the upheaval now underway in the G.O.P.: It has become a leaderless party, with veterans like Mr. Buehler stepping away, luminaries like Senator Rob Portman of Ohio retiring, far-right extremists like Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia building a brand on a web of dangerous conspiracy theories, and pro-Trump Republicans at war with other conservatives who want to look beyond the former president to the future.

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Posted 2021-February-02, 06:43

David Leonhardt at NYT said:

Has the economy fared better under Democratic presidents or Republican presidents over the past century? The sensible answer might seem to be: It’s probably been similar.

Presidents, after all, have only limited control over the economy. They don’t have much influence over the millions of decisions every day, made by consumers and business executives, that shape economic growth, jobs, incomes and stock prices. Over the course of a century, it seems logical that the economy would have performed similarly under Democrats and Republicans.

But it hasn’t.

The economy has fared far better under Democrats. The gap, as one academic paper puts it, is “startlingly large.” Here are the headline numbers:

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And here is a ranking of presidents by average annual G.D.P. growth:

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The gap exists not only for G.D.P. and jobs but also for incomes, productivity and stock prices. The gap also exists if you assume that a president’s policies affect the economy with a lag and don’t start his economic clock until months after he takes office. Virtually any reasonable look at the data shows a big Democratic advantage.

My colleague Yaryna Serkez and I have just published a piece documenting the pattern and the potential reasons. A few possibilities are easy to reject. It’s not about congressional control, nor is it about Democrats running up larger budget deficits. (Republican presidents have run up larger deficits in recent decades.)

Coincidence surely plays some role — but it’s highly unlikely to account for the entire gap, given its size, breadth and duration. Yaryna’s and my piece explores some of the most plausible explanations:
  • Republican presidents have been slow to respond to recessions and other crises — Donald Trump and both George Bushes being examples. (Herbert Hoover was too, and the partisan gap would be even bigger if the data went back far enough to include him.)
  • Recent Democratic presidents have been more pragmatic, willing to listen to the evidence about when the economy would benefit from deficit reduction and when it needs government support for education, infrastructure, scientific research and more.
  • Republican presidents over the past 40 years have pursued one economic policy above all other — tax cuts, skewed heavily toward the affluent — and there is little evidence that they do much for economic growth.

Our piece has more details and charts, as well as comments from both conservative and liberal economists. Find it all here.

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Posted 2021-February-02, 06:50

Jonathan Bernstein at Bloomberg said:

The Senate has three choices for how to organize the second impeachment trial of Donald Trump. Two of them make sense.

The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent lays out the case for one of the sensible plans: Begin the impeachment in committee. As Sargent explains, that would offer an opportunity to present the evidence in depth, and to put it on the public record — all without threatening the ability of the full Senate to get things done. Remember, this isn’t just about the events of Jan. 6. The article of impeachment covers Trump’s entire scheme to undermine the legitimate election results, eventually including inciting insurrection. Some of those details are well known, such as Trump’s call to Georgia’s secretary of state asking him to “find” votes. Some of them are just emerging now. Some of the key players haven’t talked for the record at all, and certainly not under oath.

The second good option? The Senate could do what it did in Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial. Back then, the Senate took depositions from witnesses, and then the House managers and Clinton’s lawyers were able to play video excerpts during the trial. A fully transparent committee would be better, but at least the Senate in this scenario could do the necessary fact-finding outside of the formal trial setting.

The worst option, unfortunately, appears to be where we’re headed. That would be rushing through a trial that has no new fact-finding process and does very little to illuminate how the assault on the Capitol actually happened.

Yes, 45 Republicans have already gone on record to say that Trump can’t be convicted in an impeachment trial after leaving office. (Technically, they voted against tabling — or stopping consideration of — Senator Rand Paul’s point of order, and haven’t yet voted directly on the underlying claim.) That makes conviction unlikely. But that’s all the more reason to construct a very public, and reasonably detailed, record of exactly what Trump did wrong.

After all, there’s no real rush to complete this process, as long as the procedures can be arranged so that it doesn’t interfere with the other important business of Congress. And it shouldn’t. Remember: The Constitution is clear that both chambers make their own rules. Given that the subject of impeachment is in large part the former president’s role in sparking an assault on those chambers, it’s only proper that they create processes that fulfill their interests — and the interests of the United States.

The Senate should slow down and get it right.

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Posted 2021-February-02, 08:43

re: Where Republicans’ $618B coronavirus relief proposal differs from Biden’s $1.9T plan (WaPo)

Matt Yglesias said:

I was looking to see which areas Republicans prioritize over direct payments, state governments, UI, schools, and child poverty but it turns out the answer is nothing.

There is no area where they want to do more to help. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Posted 2021-February-02, 15:55

View Posty66, on 2021-February-02, 08:43, said:



A compromise proposal would be something like a 1.5 trillion or 2.5 trillion bill. Something close to the original Democratic bill. .6 trillion is 1/3 the size of the original proposal, an absolute joke, an obviously fake attempt at a compromise when the clear conclusion is that it isn't a legitimate attempt at a compromise, but a cynical bungled attempt to create a fake talking point that the Republicans offered a compromise that the Democrats rejected.
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Posted 2021-February-02, 16:00

View Postjohnu, on 2021-February-02, 15:55, said:

A compromise proposal would be something like a 1.5 trillion or 2.5 trillion bill. Something close to the original Democratic bill. .6 trillion is 1/3 the size of the original proposal, an absolute joke, an obviously fake attempt at a compromise when the clear conclusion is that it isn't a legitimate attempt at a compromise, but a cynical bungled attempt to create a fake talking point that the Republicans offered a compromise that the Democrats rejected.


The entire purpose was to establish for the orchestrated right-wing-media a talking point justification for stonewalling all future attempts at compromise. Mission accomplished.
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Posted 2021-February-03, 07:38

Jonathan Bernstein at Bloomberg said:

The trial brief submitted by Donald Trump’s lawyers on Tuesday leans heavily on the claim that a former president, having been impeached, is no longer subject to a Senate trial. That’s not a particularly strong argument, but it is a legitimate one with some scholarly support, and in practical terms it’s clearly the best they have — given that 45 Republican senators have already indicated that they’re inclined to buy it and clearly would rather talk about such constitutional provisions than about what Trump did in the final 10 weeks of his presidency.

What I found more interesting in the brief was an argument that, if we attribute it to Trump (and not just to lawyers throwing anything they have at the wall and hoping it sticks), helps underline exactly why he was such a bad president. What’s fascinating here is a “free speech” claim: that Trump’s various attempts to subvert the election were protected by his First Amendment rights, and therefore not subject to legitimate impeachment.

Jonathan Adler knocked this argument down last month:

The Amendment does not generally protect speech uttered in the course of one's employment, and even if a government employee engages in protected speech in a private capacity, off the job, on a matter of public concern, it may still be sanctioned if the government has interests that sufficiently outweigh the employee's interest in speaking freely. So, for instance, if a police officer engages in otherwise protected speech off-the-job, it could still result in that officer being fired if the speech might compromise the ability of the officer to perform his or her job, or call the officer's fitness into question. So, while racist speech may be protected, police departments can still discipline officers for off-duty racist speech.

Adler was focused on the government here. But it’s obviously more broadly true of any employer. Of course employees can be fired for spreading lies about the organization they work for while neglecting the duties they were hired to perform. Of course First Amendment rights offer no protection for employees who do that. No one who has ever held a job would doubt that.

And there’s the problem: Trump treated the presidency as a prize he had won, but in fact it was a job he was hired to do. Yes, the Constitution gives great latitude to the occupants of the office as to exactly how they perform their duties. And yet at the end of the day, the president is only an employee — and he or she is only one of many people hired to collectively govern the nation. Trump never seemed to understand that.

Perhaps that’s why he accomplished so little over his four years in office, with most of his achievements already melting away. Oh, the judges he appointed will stay put for a while. And he (along with a Republican Congress) can take credit or blame for a big tax cut and some upgraded border fencing. But otherwise, he achieved little of substance and plenty that has already been overturned by Joe Biden. As Jonathan Chait has argued, that’s in strong contrast to the enduring accomplishments of Barack Obama’s administration (although to be fair, the 111th Congress also deserves much of the credit or blame for them, and Trump had to work with much less capable Republican majorities).

We don’t have a final verdict on Trump’s presidency. To the extent that he accelerated the antidemocratic tendencies of the Republican Party, his legacy may well loom large — especially if the radicals he elevated wind up taking down constitutional government after all. But even that was almost incidental to his presidency. The truth is, he just didn’t do the job, and now he’s brazen enough to use that as a defense in his second impeachment trial.

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Posted 2021-February-03, 15:24

View Postbarmar, on 2021-January-28, 12:20, said:

Of course if you ask Trump, he'll point out that the economy was booming for the first 3 years of his administration, then China sent the coronavirus and there was nothing he could do about that.

And Bush II kept the homeland safe from terrorism, except for that 9/11 thing.
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Posted 2021-February-03, 18:50

View Postjohnu, on 2021-February-03, 15:24, said:

And Bush II kept the homeland safe from terrorism, except for that 9/11 thing.

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