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What to overcall?

Poll: What to overcall? (42 member(s) have cast votes)

Red, RHO deals and open 2D AKxxx x J KQJTxx

  1. 2S (8 votes [19.05%])

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  2. 3C (22 votes [52.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 52.38%

  3. Other (please specify) (12 votes [28.57%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.57%

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#21 User is offline   jmcilkley 

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Posted 2015-May-25, 09:36

I presume that's a weak 2 in diamonds so I reckon 3d is Ghestem showing the extremes of the other 3 suits, i.e. spades and clubs
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Posted 2015-May-25, 10:19

3C

+ Fingers crossed, that I get another chance.

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Posted 2015-May-25, 10:48

View Postaguahombre, on 2015-May-25, 08:31, said:

Leaping Mike, BTW, with an unknown Major, can get ugly.

That is true. But if you have the agreement:
4 Always (regardless of whether they have opened/shown or ) other minor + a major
4 Always (regardless of whether they have opened/shown or ) both majors

then you can use 4 over 4 to ask for the major.

Obviously, it can then get ugly if you (or partner) forgets...

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Posted 2015-May-25, 11:52

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Posted 2015-May-25, 13:04

View Postdiana_eva, on 2015-May-25, 03:41, said:

You realize this is the expert forum, right?


Yes I did realize.. So experts don't form casual partnerships...right(?!) <_<
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Posted 2015-May-25, 13:42

If Leaping Michaels was not an option, I'd start with 3C - already a 'power' call - intending to bid spades later. I confess this seems like a bit of an underbid; after all, I do have a super 4-loser hand. But sometimes one has to be practical; a club jump probably loses the spade suit and Double might cause partner to bury me with heart bids.

I wouldn't say 2S was 'wrong'. I just like 3C more.
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Posted 2015-May-25, 15:45

View PostTrinidad, on 2015-May-25, 10:48, said:

That is true. But if you have the agreement:
4 Always (regardless of whether they have opened/shown or ) other minor + a major
4 Always (regardless of whether they have opened/shown or ) both majors

then you can use 4 over 4 to ask for the major.

Obviously, it can then get ugly if you (or partner) forgets...

Rik

Or if they are inconsiderate enough to raise diamonds to 4 or 5. I think it might even be a free psych.
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Posted 2015-May-26, 03:26

Leaping Micheal's is a necessity defense to show a strong 2 suites hand against weak 2 opening. Definitely it's not your only option I would bid 3 and then bid spades (if possible) if Leaping Michael's isn't an option for any reason. I'll choose to bid clubs first since it's a 6 card semi solid suit. Also, I think that 3 would point into majors in this hand.
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Posted 2015-May-26, 03:29

Sorry I forgot to add that I don't consider double to be an option with a 2 suiter hand
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Posted 2015-May-26, 09:55

View PostPhilG007, on 2015-May-25, 03:24, said:

I don't recommend using cue bids in a casual partnership. I prefer to
play the K.I.S.S. system (Keep It Simple Stupid)

View Postdiana_eva, on 2015-May-25, 03:41, said:

You realize this is the expert forum, right?

View PostPhilG007, on 2015-May-25, 13:04, said:

Yes I did realize.. So experts don't form casual partnerships...right(?!) <_<

Yes, experts do form casual partnerships. And yes, many experts do like to follow the KISS principle and keep it simple. Many even do that in their regular partnerships. But refraining from using cuebids is not KIS, it is simply S.

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Posted 2015-May-26, 12:55

Dbl!
Simple over-calls with such freak hands can go without any raise.After the double if partner replies the short suit (in this case so bid 3, which will show 2 suited hand, other suit being .
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Posted 2015-May-26, 15:16

View PostKurtGodel, on 2015-May-24, 05:18, said:

You are not allowed any form of leaping Michaels,


View PostWesleyC, on 2015-May-24, 07:00, said:

Why not?

I think he answered this in the OP already.

View PostKurtGodel, on 2015-May-24, 05:18, said:

the question is not what system are you playing, it's what are you going to bid given your limited options. It's teams.




View PostWesleyC, on 2015-May-24, 07:00, said:

Regarding the auction you had at the table, I think North has a obvious 3NT bid over the 3C. (Assuming your playing IMPs or Rubber)


Why did N have an obvious 3 NT over 3? Is it because he can easily see that South will not pass and rescue him by bidding 4? What if god forbid, south had only 3 spades? Did 3 ask stopper? I am not saying N should pass. I think N has hell of a difficult hand to make a decision and whatever he chooses will be far away from being clear.
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Posted 2015-May-28, 10:12

With no gadget to show this hand, I think a quiet 3 is a little better than 2 or double. Unless LHO bids something like 5 or 3nt, I plan to bid next time.
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