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What call do you make? When is a raise right.

#41 User is online   P_Marlowe 

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Posted 2005-April-01, 07:14

flytoox, on Mar 16 2005, 07:11 PM, said:

mike777, on Mar 16 2005, 04:24 PM, said:

2s bidders please keep in mind:

Partner will rebid over 1nt with XYZ if:
1) strong
2) invite
3) weak with 5+s
4) weak with 6+clubs
5) weak with 4 D

If
1D=P=1S=P
1NT=P=P=2H
? We still have option of bidding 2s and playing in 4-3 fit if you choose.

If you bid 2S, they wont have chance to bid 2H at all. And if spade is 1-5, you are likely doubled in the NT then 2S sequence but will not get dbled if you raise to 2S directly.

Just one question: How high is the percentage that
spades are 5-1?
Sorry, but I wont worry to much about a case who
occurs with 1 or 2 percent probability.

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Marlowe
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Posted 2005-April-01, 08:07

P_Marlowe, on Apr 1 2005, 01:14 PM, said:

flytoox, on Mar 16 2005, 07:11 PM, said:

mike777, on Mar 16 2005, 04:24 PM, said:

2s bidders please keep in mind:

Partner will rebid over 1nt with XYZ if:
1) strong
2) invite
3) weak with 5+s
4) weak with 6+clubs
5) weak with 4 D

If
1D=P=1S=P
1NT=P=P=2H
? We still have option of bidding 2s and playing in 4-3 fit if you choose.

If you bid 2S, they wont have chance to bid 2H at all. And if spade is 1-5, you are likely doubled in the NT then 2S sequence but will not get dbled if you raise to 2S directly.

Just one question: How high is the percentage that
spades are 5-1?
Sorry, but I wont worry to much about a case who
occurs with 1 or 2 percent probability.

With kind regards
Marlowe

It is not high, but 1N then 2S is much more revealing. Even if spade breaks 4-2, you are likely dbled.

If I raise to 2S directly, then even if spade breaks 5-1 they may not dbl.

The point is not about frequency but about how much information opps will get from your auction.

Regards

Hongjun
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Posted 2005-April-01, 08:13

Fluffy, on Mar 18 2005, 09:08 PM, said:

Walddk, on Mar 17 2005, 11:59 AM, said:

Brandal, on Mar 17 2005, 06:24 AM, said:

Direct raise=4 cards support with me thank you  :D

Yes, Norway is the 3rd country, alongside France and Poland, where they have capital punishment for a 3-card raise ;)

Roland

Hey!, don't forget Spain please, I've been playing for nearly 12 years now, and the only time I have ever seen a 3 card raise from opponent, it was made at the 6 level. After such bid that player asked... what else could I had bid? :-P

Add Belgium also !

1NT for me :)
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Posted 2005-April-01, 08:36

flytoox, on Apr 1 2005, 09:07 AM, said:

P_Marlowe, on Apr 1 2005, 01:14 PM, said:

flytoox, on Mar 16 2005, 07:11 PM, said:

mike777, on Mar 16 2005, 04:24 PM, said:

2s bidders please keep in mind:

Partner will rebid over 1nt with XYZ if:
1) strong
2) invite
3) weak with 5+s
4) weak with 6+clubs
5) weak with 4 D

If
1D=P=1S=P
1NT=P=P=2H
? We still have option of bidding 2s and playing in 4-3 fit if you choose.

If you bid 2S, they wont have chance to bid 2H at all. And if spade is 1-5, you are likely doubled in the NT then 2S sequence but will not get dbled if you raise to 2S directly.

Just one question: How high is the percentage that
spades are 5-1?
Sorry, but I wont worry to much about a case who
occurs with 1 or 2 percent probability.

With kind regards
Marlowe

It is not high, but 1N then 2S is much more revealing. Even if spade breaks 4-2, you are likely dbled.

If I raise to 2S directly, then even if spade breaks 5-1 they may not dbl.

The point is not about frequency but about how much information opps will get from your auction.

Regards

Hongjun

I understand your reasoning, but do not forget,
that the intervention of opponents also gives
you information you can use.

In the end: take your choise and pay the price.

With kind regards
Marlowe
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Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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