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A couple of days ago, my partner had the following hand:
AQJxxx---xxx---x---Kxx.
Nonvulnerable versus vulnerable, I was the dealer and opened 2 spades - weak two. For this situation, we made the following agreement: "at least five spades and 0-7 points". After opponent's pass, what would you bid with partner's hand?
Let us suppose, you bid 4 spades and the auction continued
2 spades---pass---4 spades---5 diamonds
pass---6diamonds---?
What would you bid?
Jahol
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weak two, second story another weak two problem
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Posted 2005-March-13, 16:08
I pass
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Posted 2005-March-13, 16:32
wait, i have the hand you showed and my partner opened 2♠? i bid 6♠
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Posted 2005-March-13, 17:00
Hmmm looks like down 4 or 5 in 6♠ vs making 6♦. Worth it.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy - but it might improve my bridge.
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Posted 2005-March-13, 17:13
I think 4Spade bid was insufficient. I would've bid 5S/ 2S and let opps guess at the 6 level with the likelihood of not going down more than the value of any vulnerable game that opps might have (to wit: no -800).
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Posted 2005-March-13, 17:16
3D natural over 2S, one round force. game try.
Choice 2=4nt
Choice 2=4nt
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Posted 2005-March-13, 20:32
I too would have bid 5S with that hand, though a pass is not totally a silly bid. I'll bid 6S now.
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Posted 2005-March-13, 23:09
I'll take the bait and bid 6. No spade to cash and even the ♣K is in peril.
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Posted 2005-March-14, 10:10
Be a man, play Lorenzo two's: 0-7 with at least FOUR cards 
Anyway, I think I'd start with 2NT inquiry (it you have such thing) and bid 4♠ only later. Don't push them in slam this easy. If they end up in 6♦, then I'll sacrifice in 6♠, but after 2NT many will be careful before bidding slams.
Anyway, I think I'd start with 2NT inquiry (it you have such thing) and bid 4♠ only later. Don't push them in slam this easy. If they end up in 6♦, then I'll sacrifice in 6♠, but after 2NT many will be careful before bidding slams.
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Posted 2005-March-14, 10:30
Sacrificing in 6S is a no-brainer. The thing is whether you sacrifice in SEVEN spades...
A direct 2S-pass-6S would have forced LHO to double you instead of bidding 7D. If you now bid 6S, they might bid 7D and you won't know whether that makes or not.
A direct 2S-pass-6S would have forced LHO to double you instead of bidding 7D. If you now bid 6S, they might bid 7D and you won't know whether that makes or not.
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Posted 2005-March-15, 12:23
Pass.
Having made my choice of 4 spades, I live with the results.
I'm not big on the advanced sacrifice with this hand as it may be too expensive verses their game/slam, which they have as yet to bid.
Three other reasons argue for the pass: they don't have to make six, they may have missed a laydown 7, and we may have already won the board for a modest imp pickup if hearts are their spot instead of diamonds.
WinstonM
Having made my choice of 4 spades, I live with the results.
I'm not big on the advanced sacrifice with this hand as it may be too expensive verses their game/slam, which they have as yet to bid.
Three other reasons argue for the pass: they don't have to make six, they may have missed a laydown 7, and we may have already won the board for a modest imp pickup if hearts are their spot instead of diamonds.
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Posted 2005-March-15, 13:15
I agree with Winston. Having bid 4S the first time (which would not have been my choice) I pass and hope that they are not in the optimal spot.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2005-March-15, 14:28
Well, my partner bid 6 spades and that was not a very good sacrifice, since my hand was
10xxxx---xx---x---Axxxx.
6 spades doubled from my left and down three, spades 1-1 and singleton spade king off, clubs 4-1, 6 dia down one.
You may blame me for my weak two bid, but I do not think that it was going beyond the agreement I made with my partner (0-7PC, at least five spades). Neither do I think that such bid is bad in the first seat when non-vulnerable against vulnerable....
In my opinion, 4 spades are far from using all the potential of this nice hand. Simple 5 spades are much better as well as any kind of psycho - in fact, you can bid almost anything and you can bid almost anything several times, when allowed.
Once I had similar hand like my partner, but just
AQJxxx---xxx---x---xxx
and my partner opened 2 spades promising weak two with 6 spades (at least
) that time. I bid 4NT (Blackwood!) doubled from my left. Now, according to our agreement, I knew we had no ace after my partner pass and I could make a sacrifice with seven spades after opponents' 7 dia bid without any doubt (almost ).
I think that Blackwood is perhaps not that bad bid also in the presented example.
Jahol
10xxxx---xx---x---Axxxx.
6 spades doubled from my left and down three, spades 1-1 and singleton spade king off, clubs 4-1, 6 dia down one.
You may blame me for my weak two bid, but I do not think that it was going beyond the agreement I made with my partner (0-7PC, at least five spades). Neither do I think that such bid is bad in the first seat when non-vulnerable against vulnerable....
In my opinion, 4 spades are far from using all the potential of this nice hand. Simple 5 spades are much better as well as any kind of psycho - in fact, you can bid almost anything and you can bid almost anything several times, when allowed.
Once I had similar hand like my partner, but just
AQJxxx---xxx---x---xxx
and my partner opened 2 spades promising weak two with 6 spades (at least
) that time. I bid 4NT (Blackwood!) doubled from my left. Now, according to our agreement, I knew we had no ace after my partner pass and I could make a sacrifice with seven spades after opponents' 7 dia bid without any doubt (almost ).I think that Blackwood is perhaps not that bad bid also in the presented example.
Jahol
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Posted 2005-March-15, 17:27
"You may blame me for my weak two bid, but I do not think that it was going beyond the agreement I made with my partner (0-7PC, at least five spades). Neither do I think that such bid is bad in the first seat when non-vulnerable against vulnerable.... "
Sorry Jahol, if you play this style you frequently have to put up with these results. I wouldn't open 2S in a fit; nor would I open a 2 bid to show a 2 suiter with this dreck.
Sorry Jahol, if you play this style you frequently have to put up with these results. I wouldn't open 2S in a fit; nor would I open a 2 bid to show a 2 suiter with this dreck.
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Posted 2005-March-15, 17:38
No need to blame anyone, bidding 6S doesnt come with insurence, we all knew this could happend some thought the chances are with you some thought they are against you.
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