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Do humans Stayman with the North hand?

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Posted 2015-March-21, 16:19


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Posted 2015-March-21, 19:31

No.can't stayman.
For me,as a results of the limitation of system approach,I often bid 3♣ to transfer to 3♦ as final contract.
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Posted 2015-March-21, 19:52

Playing a standard system, I think that this is very close to an invite.
With this said and done, I'd pass.

Red, at IMPs, I might stretch because this hand had an awful lot of strength
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Posted 2015-March-22, 04:44

Playing nonpromisory you might still stop in 3d but I think I will invite regardless of methods.
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Posted 2015-March-22, 05:19

Slight thread drift, but sometimes you come across discussions of whether an invite should be accepted on a "middling" hand. This is one good reason why you should stick to maximum to accept, at least in NT. Partner's "game try" may be contingent on a suit fit.
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Posted 2015-March-22, 05:31

View Postlycier, on 2015-March-21, 19:31, said:

No.can't stayman.
For me,as a results of the limitation of system approach,I often bid 3♣ to transfer to 3♦ as final contract.


Unilaterally committing to playing diamonds at the three in what might easily be a 5-2 fit seems silly

If you're going to play this way, its better to adopt transfers on the second round of the auction as in the Scanian NT system
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Posted 2015-March-22, 09:17

View Posthelene_t, on 2015-March-22, 04:44, said:

Playing nonpromisory you might still stop in 3d but I think I will invite regardless of methods.


After Stayman 3m will normally be GF.
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Posted 2015-March-22, 09:18

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Posted 2015-March-22, 09:25

Yes but it could go
1n 2c
2h 2s
2n 3d
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Posted 2015-March-22, 10:43

View Posthelene_t, on 2015-March-22, 09:25, said:

Yes but it could go
1n 2c
2h 2s
2n 3d
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Of course it depends on what 2♠ means. If it is invitational with four spades this auction might occur. Not sure of another sensible meaning for 2♠ in a system using transfers.
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Posted 2015-March-22, 14:40

View PostVampyr, on 2015-March-22, 10:43, said:

If it is invitational with four spades this auction might occur.
This is, in fact, what it means in GIB's system.
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Posted 2015-March-22, 17:21

View Posthelene_t, on 2015-March-22, 09:25, said:

Yes but it could go
1n 2c
2h 2s
2n 3d
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Oh,my god! I don't know how to bid in this hand in the past,now I get it.
Thank you very very much.
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Posted 2015-March-23, 14:26

It will be interesting to see if GIB passes 3D if this sequence does occur. I agree it's the right sequence playing with a human partner.
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