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Posted 2015-February-11, 17:12


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Posted 2015-February-13, 07:41

Thanks, fixed in next version (v33).

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Posted 2015-February-13, 18:53

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-February-11, 17:12, said:




View Postgeorgi, on 2015-February-13, 07:41, said:

Thanks, fixed in next version (v33).



georgi,may I ask you a question?

In the 33 version,How to handle this hand? open 1♣ or 1♦?
For me,I will open 1♦,and prepare to rebid 1♠ or 2♣.


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Posted 2015-February-13, 19:01

With that hand, GIB would open 1♣.

GIB would open 1♦ with 5♣4♦, only with hand under 16TP which has super diamonds and lousy clubs, where the expected reverse is impossible and rebidding 2♣ with xxxxx, while having AKJ10/AKQx in dimonds would remain concealed.

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Posted 2015-February-13, 21:42

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-February-13, 19:01, said:

With that hand, GIB would open 1♣.

GIB would open 1♦ with 5♣4♦, only with hand under 16TP which has super diamonds and lousy clubs, where the expected reverse is impossible and rebidding 2♣ with xxxxx, while having AKJ10/AKQx in dimonds would remain concealed.


It seems open 1♣ is playable if partner respond higher suit at 1-level.
However there are several special hands.

1- 1♣ -- 1nt,now opener only pass?
2- 1♣ - 2nt(invitiona hand),How to handle? only pass?
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Posted 2015-February-14, 03:50

1♣ - 1NT

you could just rebid 2♣, partner has 3+ clubs for sure and unlikely 5+♦. At least unlikely GIB to have.

2♦ for GIB here would require reverse strength.


1♣ - 2NT

Here 3♦ would only promise 14+ TP so this hand matches and could find this call.


In all cases 2♣/3♣ are not forcing, so based on 1NT/2NT you will find the part-score you'd like.

If you want to invite for game you have to risk a little, as for GIB at the moment there is no invite with 5-4 in minors.

Even if you have opened 1♦ problem remains if partner bids 1NT/2NT.

What would you do over NT's ?

1♦ - 1NT
2♣ - is passable
3♣ - is GF


So the solution seems not safe unless there is some new path. Nevertheless, the chance partner to rebid on 1st level ( unless Soloway ) is much higher anyway than 1NT/2NT.

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