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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2015-February-07, 16:27


I don't really have a strong opinion as to whether GIB's system should be that 3 should show first-round control or first-or-second round control. However, I do have a strong opinion that the explanation provided for the bid should accurately explain GIB's system.
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Posted 2015-February-12, 07:22

When there are values close to slam or GF+, like here, GIB could make fake-ace-cuebid. It only happens when there is aside void.

And this suit where GIB cuebids is never the void, its headed with King+.

And the explanation cannot reveal which of these both cases is ( real Ace or K+ and aside void ).

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Posted 2015-February-12, 07:28

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-February-12, 07:22, said:

And the explanation cannot reveal which of these both cases is ( real Ace or K+ and aside void ).

Why not? Why can't it say CA, or CK plus void?
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Posted 2015-February-12, 09:30

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-February-12, 07:22, said:

When there are values close to slam or GF+, like here, GIB could make fake-ace-cuebid. It only happens when there is aside void.

And this suit where GIB cuebids is never the void, its headed with King+.

And the explanation cannot reveal which of these both cases is ( real Ace or K+ and aside void ).

I don't think is it impossible to know. For instance we have 0 or 3 keys that allows to esclude any case from NT bidder to read for Aces. Secondary, if you apply my method that reveales void ..5 =? Queen, 5 NT= yes (heart) Queen plus an indeterminate void ... ( see RKCB 3014 in "Find my content" in Lovera's profile ).
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Posted 2015-February-12, 09:43

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-February-07, 16:27, said:

I don't really have a strong opinion as to whether GIB's system should be that 3 should show first-round control or first-or-second round control. However, I do have a strong opinion that the explanation provided for the bid should accurately explain GIB's system.


That is a good idea for what you said,a pity that it is also a complicated work,I guess it will be resolved in 64 version at least (now is 32 version) in the future.Posted Image
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