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robot often change contract makeable to rediculous

#1 User is offline   okima 

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Posted 2015-January-29, 10:33

robot (GIB) had changed my contract which is good or makeable to the one which is much worse or especially rediculous.
can we let robot not change our decision for choice of game so often??

for example, after open 1NT, robot takes 6 cards Major inv, and transfer then rebid 3M (1NT-2DH; 2HS-3HS), but if I select to accept the invitation and play 3NT, robot changes to 4M for holding any suit quality and any shape, every board, does it not learn that it must believe partner's decision for choice of game?

and just like that, during the last robot rebate 55%, I held KJ9 K5 T742 AJ98 and opened 1C, robot held 762 AQ9863 A3 52 and responced 1H, after 1C-1H; 1NT-3H, I rebidded 3NT for my hand with stoppers on S and D, but robot didn't take respect to my opinion and changed 4H, as you see, 3NT is very easy to make (9 tricks while H good distribution and right declaring site), but 4H is a disaster (no enough tricks and wrongful declaring site).

please see the problem of robot (bids and choices itself without taking respect to human's decision), thank you.
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Posted 2015-January-29, 12:28

I agree. This is a long-standing issue that is well overdue for correction. I have made this point myself in this forum a long time ago.
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Posted 2015-February-06, 11:58

Thanks for reporting it.

1) For first case where GIB corrects to 4M the sequence

1NT - 2/
2/ - 3 invite
3NT -> here if human selects this, GIB won't move.

Could it be Windows version loaned robots as i couldn't replicate this otherwise?


For second case it will be corrected for next version according to case 1).

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Posted 2015-February-06, 21:26

It's neither correct for GIB to always pass 3NT or always correct to 4 of the major in these situations. Probably it should most often pass but with an invite based more on distribution than high cards, it, like a good human player, should be able to make an intelligent decision.
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