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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2015-February-10, 19:48


What strength does 4 show? What would 3 have been instead?
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Posted 2015-February-11, 15:29

4H should deny any A or K in the hand. 3H is the generic raise, forcing. Note I said "should" I will be interested to see what GIB actually held.
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Posted 2015-February-11, 15:41

GIB did correctly respond to two rounds of RKC.

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Posted 2015-February-13, 07:34

Fixed explanation in next version.

-- 3+ M; 4- HCP

Will check about why this hand didn't raise.

3M promises 5+ TP , so this hand qualifies in theory.

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Posted 2015-February-13, 07:51

If 3M is 3+M; 5+TP, then 4M should be 3+M; 4-TP. The two explanations should show a clear distinction.
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Posted 2015-February-13, 19:10

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-February-13, 07:34, said:

Fixed explanation in next version.

-- 3+ M; 4- HCP

Will check about why this hand didn't raise.

3M promises 5+ TP , so this hand qualifies in theory.


georgi,I perfectly agree with your opinions,I have some suggestions on this hand for what you said.

I know Gib don't play positive/negative respond,however this approach belongs to this category for what you said.
4M should be alerted as "3+M,4-hcp,denies any Ace"
3M should be alerted as "3+M,4+hcp,promises Ace or K in some suit,please cuebid".
OK?
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Posted 2015-February-13, 19:14

View Postlycier, on 2015-February-13, 19:10, said:

I know Gib don't play positive/negative respond,however this approach belongs to this category for what you said.
4M should be alerted as "3+M,4-hcp,denies any Ace"
3M should be alerted as "3+M,4+hcp,promises Ace or K in some suit,please cuebid".
OK?

Then how would you show support if you have 3 queens? You are too strong for 4M, but lack the A/K needed for 3M.
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Posted 2015-February-13, 19:22

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-February-13, 19:14, said:

Then how would you show support if you have 3 queens? You are too strong for 4M, but lack the A/K needed for 3M.


3 queens are very special.
No way.
3M should be alerted as "3+M,4+hcp,Ace or K in some suit or occasionally 3 queen".
ok?
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Posted 2015-February-13, 20:02

View Postlycier, on 2015-February-13, 19:22, said:

3 queens are very special.
No way.
3M should be alerted as "3+M,4+hcp,Ace or K in some suit or occasionally 3 queen".
ok?

Now you're just being stupid.
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Posted 2015-February-14, 03:37

At the moment for GIB 2 is with semi-unknown strength. Max is unknown if hand is unbalanced and the longest suit is weak.

Bal hand would go through 2NT which is 8+ HCP, but if you have weak by quality one suiter hand, i.e.

Qx
QJx
Qxxxxx
xx

you would bid 2 and then could also give positive over 2 i.e. although having only Queen of trumps.

So 3M could hold variety of positives which responder wished to show on second round.

Or even singleton if hand is

xxx
QJx
x
Jxxxxx

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