[flytoox]

Sitting south, i hold
S: QT87
H: AJ975
D: KQX
C: A

pd holds:
S: J62
H: K8
D: 972
C: KJT83

auction goes:
1H-1N
2S-3C
PASS(?)

My question is if 3c is forcing or not? I thought pd has sth like:
S: JX
H: X
D: JXXX
C: KQXXXX

so I passed.

I think 3c here is no point, coz i either have to bid 3n, if not pass, or 4c, if i do have spt. It is very unlikely that we can have 6c. So i think if pd have about 8-10 HCP, he should bid 3n.
Any comments? Thanks very much.
HOngjun

[hrothgar]

As always, I have a few comments:

First, most regulat partnerships have an established mechanism to show weakness over a reverse.
Lebensohl over reverses used to be popular [With a weak hand, responder bids 2NT as a puppet to 3C and then suggests a contract]. I have also seen schemes that use cheaper minor or even 4th suit as a weakness bid. I am not sure what is "standard" these days.

With this said and done, I don't like reversing with this hand.
You "only" have a 16 count and that singleton Ace of clubs is a big minus.
I would probably open 1NT, seeking to avoid the whole rebid problem.

[flytoox]

Actually, after pd's 1n, my 2s is not much of point either, I thought about 2N invitational, which i am sure will work better here. As for 1N opening, I prefer not do that. ;D

[pbleighton]

1) 3C (new suit at 3 level) is forcing for one round.
2) With pds hand I would have bid 3NT. Unless you have 4 clubs, 3NT is the place to be, and you have shown 2 suits. Pd has 8, you should have 17, he has a balanced hand and a source of tricks.
3) I agree with Richard that you are too weak for a reverse, though I personally don't bid 1NT with a singleton.
4) In standard bidding (which I define by default as Bill Root's Commonsense Bidding), the auction would have gone 1H-1NT-P (assuming no interference).

[flytoox]

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1) 3C (new suit at 3 level) is forcing for one round.
2) With pds hand I would have bid 3NT. Unless you have 4 clubs, 3NT is the place to be, and you have shown 2 suits. Pd has 8, you should have 17, he has a balanced hand and a source of tricks.
3) I agree with Richard that you are too weak for a reverse, though I personally don't bid 1NT with a singleton.
4) In standard bidding (which I define by default as Bill Root's Commonsense Bidding), the auction would have gone 1H-1NT-P (assuming no interference).

Thanks very much, how to deal with weak hand with 6 card club suit then?

[pbleighton]

"Thanks very much, how to deal with weak hand with 6 card club suit then?"

Bid 2NT. This is a bad bid, but anything else is worse. Think, if you are playing Standard Amercan, and you have 6-9(10) hcp, and your partner bids 1 spade, and you don't have 3 spades. You bid 1NT.

[inquiry]

I suggest that you read about Ingberman convention over reverses. One website is....

http://www.bridgeguys.com/Conventions/Ingb...Convention.html

BTW, Ingberman is a part of Bridge Base Online Advanced.

Ben

[pbleighton]

If you play weak jump shifts, you can respond 3C over 1H.

[flytoox]

Thanks all very much.