[Cthulhu D]

ayebee, on 2014-December-30, 06:41, said:

2♣ mis-describes the essentially pre-emptive nature of the hand although it just about qualifies as a strong hand.
OK if you can trust partner to respect your sign off in 5♦ and not get over excited. (No I don't like that 6NT bid).
Also it's still low enough for OPPs to come in with a good major suit.

If you are going to open this 2C, you need to have a very clear agreement about what your 3D, 4D and 5D rebids show vs a direct 5D. I think if you are going to open 2C, you cannot bid 4D as hands richer in HCP but lesser in shape (say, KQ x AKQJxxx AQJ might want to do that). I certainly wouldn't bid like this in a pick up partnership, but given you are non vul, is there anything wrong with playing that a direct 5D is 9 playing tricks and 2C->5D is 10 playing tricks? (or if that is too scary, try 10 and 11). Then partner has a much better idea of if to punt 6D with 2 or 3 aces.

[ArtK78]

I find it hard to stomach that several posters believe that 2♣ is the correct opening on this hand. Still, even after opening 2♣, slam should be avoided. I do have an agreement with my regular partner that a 2♣ opening followed by an immediate game bid shows a powerful trick taking hand with less than the traditional values for a 2♣ opening. But the line has to be drawn somewhere, and this is WAY below that line.

1♦ followed by 5♦ is a reasonable description of this hand. It shows a 5♦ opening bid that has values, not just long diamonds.

[bdegrande]

scarletv, on 2014-December-28, 16:34, said:

At least one of you was thinking of opening 2♣ what actually happened. Not 1♦ and not 5♦. I was completely lost in this bidding. As you can see slam did not make - just the wrong values. I could not believe that my hand was not enough to make slam opposite a 2♣ opener. BTW what is 4♦ in this bidding sequence?

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I play your hand as an absolute slam force opposite a 2♣ opener and my only question would be whether we should be bidding a grand. 2♣ completely misdescribes that hand. I would open 1♦, likely rebidding 5♦, but opening 5♦ is also much better than 2♣

[Lovera]

It'd a correct bidding with chicane in heart and Qxx in spade but with two Aces and (let's say) more a King (1/2 trick) is not good for a pre-empt and also 2♣ is wrong because we have more losers (x 5) than points.