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Reverse Drury, p-1s-2c-2h

Poll: Reverse Drury, p-1s-2c-2h (22 member(s) have cast votes)

What does 2h show?

  1. Min/sub-min opening, NF, 4+H (4 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  2. Full opening, but no extras, NF, 4+H (1 votes [4.55%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.55%

  3. Full opening or better, F, 4+H (15 votes [68.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 68.18%

  4. Extras, F, 4+h, game try (2 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

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#1 User is offline   Stephen Tu 

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Posted 2014-December-28, 05:28

Opps silent. Only discussion is "reverse drury".
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Posted 2014-December-28, 14:15

I would have 2 as 4+ F1. Anything from a submin to below a jumpshift.
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Posted 2014-December-29, 02:38

Enlightening poll results. I learned the convention from "Modern Bridge Conventions" by Root/Pavlicek, which specifically have it as min/- NF. It's also this way on the bridgeguys.com site and wikipedia, although wikipedia states "not universally accepted".

With 2h NF, I think that one can:
1. find a potentially better fit when opener was min/sub-min
2. judge what to do better if the opponents back into the auction after 2S.

So what do people feel is the advantage of having 2H be forcing? Can't 2d and 3h rebids take care of most hands you want to force with?
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Posted 2014-December-29, 07:54

I play that 2 is 5/5, F1. 2 is opener's only rebid except with that hand and 6 min, so responder can bid 2 NF with four of them and this fit will be found.
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Posted 2014-December-29, 16:47

View PostStephen Tu, on 2014-December-29, 02:38, said:

Enlightening poll results. I learned the convention from "Modern Bridge Conventions" by Root/Pavlicek, which specifically have it as min/- NF. It's also this way on the bridgeguys.com site and wikipedia, although wikipedia states "not universally accepted".

With 2h NF, I think that one can:
1. find a potentially better fit when opener was min/sub-min
2. judge what to do better if the opponents back into the auction after 2S.

So what do people feel is the advantage of having 2H be forcing? Can't 2d and 3h rebids take care of most hands you want to force with?


I was going to cite Modern Bridge Conventions too!!!
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Posted 2014-December-29, 17:02

The bridgeguys website is somewhat confusing; there are two different pages that may or may not be describing Reverse Drury, with opposite answers:
http://www.bridgeguy...uryReverse.html
http://bridgeguys.co...erse_drury.html

The documentation on the ACBL website says 2 shows full opening values, and possibly more. See pages 182-183 of http://www.acbl.org/...ns-Lesson-4.pdf
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Posted 2014-December-29, 17:15

If responder has 4 3-4 I can't see wanting to play in 2. Would want to make a game try even opposite a subminimum.
If responder doesn't have 4 will be bidding 2.
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Posted 2014-December-29, 17:18

View Poststeve2005, on 2014-December-28, 14:15, said:

I would have 2 as 4+ F1. Anything from a submin to below a jumpshift.
Stephen Tu might have included "other" or steve2005's meaning among his options. I disagree with Root/Pavlicek. IMO, 2 should be forcing. With a sub-minimum, you can just bid 2. Hence, opposite a passed hand, 2 should be unlimited with some interest in game, although it doesn't need to promise much. e.g.
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Posted 2014-December-30, 07:10

5 hearts. If partner has a hand with 4 hearts he can bid 2 over 2.
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