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minors for a change

Poll: minors for a change (19 member(s) have cast votes)

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  1. pass (7 votes [36.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.84%

  2. 3H (ask stop) (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  3. 3S (pard will expect 3 cards...) (1 votes [5.26%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.26%

  4. 4C (nat, undiscussed) (5 votes [26.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

  5. 4D (nat, undiscussed) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  6. 5D (5 votes [26.32%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.32%

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#1 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2014-December-17, 15:51

You hold, at IMPs all vuln,

♠A2
♥3
♦QT732
♣AJ872


you pard
1♦ 1♠
2♣ 3♦ (invite)
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Posted 2014-December-17, 17:01

Tough hands. I seriously doubt we have the power to make 3N, so I'm not bothering about stop asks. I'll opt for 4♣ on the grounds that it's the best description, and everything from now on must be NF. P can pass, correct to 4♦, try 4♠ with a decent 5-card suit, or raise me to 5m, and I'll pass any of the above. Not at all confident about it, though.
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Posted 2014-December-17, 17:08

I accept the invitation. 5♦.
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Posted 2014-December-17, 17:31

Added 5♦ to the poll then :)
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Posted 2014-December-18, 13:43

Some positive move seems clear.

Without complex agreements 5♦ seems like a practical choice.
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Posted 2014-December-18, 14:42

IMO this would bea wtp pass not vul, andI think vul I won't risk it this time. If not passing 4♣ trial bid seems obvious.
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Posted 2014-December-18, 16:42

This is not a bad hand on the auction. But it does not merit a game bid - yet. 4♣ is my choice. I will pass any minor suit bid partner makes over 4♣.
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Posted 2014-December-19, 10:35

Thx all. Hands were


♠A2
♥3
♦QT732
♣AJ872

♠QJ984
♥62
♦AKJ65
♣3


Bidding 4♣/4♦ or a straight 5♦ will get you to a decent game.

The point here is not to get carried away with all the bean-counting lore. If you rate this hand as "only 11 H" you'll probably pass (as about 1/3 the field did) and miss out on a red game.
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Posted 2014-December-19, 10:43

 ArtK78, on 2014-December-18, 16:42, said:

This is not a bad hand on the auction. But it does not merit a game bid - yet. 4♣ is my choice. I will pass any minor suit bid partner makes over 4♣.

I finally voted for 4♣ as passing just seemed too pessimistic. But I am close to passing but could envision too many hands PD could hold to make game if he has a max for his invite.
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Posted 2014-December-19, 13:59

The responding hand seems like a clear GF to me
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Posted 2014-December-19, 14:16

Partner's 3♦ bid was rather amateurish.
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Posted 2014-December-19, 16:27

 karlson, on 2014-December-19, 13:59, said:

The responding hand seems like a clear GF to me


Me too and the opponents silence is rather strange
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Posted 2014-December-20, 08:38

If I recall correctly, LHO had a 2♥ overcall, but didn't do it, probably because his suit quality was iffy.
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