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#1 User is offline   mr1303 

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Posted 2005-February-28, 07:12

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You're playing a symmetric relay system and partner opens 1S (playing strong club and 5 card majors. You hold:



2H would be NF, so you bid 2C, your relay starter. LHO overcalls 2H (yes really), and partner bids 3C, natural unbalanced.

Your bid is?
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Posted 2005-February-28, 07:23

3NT
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Posted 2005-February-28, 07:52

What would pass by partner have meant? And double?
Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do!
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Posted 2005-February-28, 08:09

Partner isn't forced to bid after 2H, so what does 3C show - just distribution, or some additional strength?

Anyway, I bid 6NT, LHO doubles and cashes both black aces. This is not my day. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-February-28, 08:24

Right now I can't think of anything clever, so I just bid 6NT. If you put the same problem tomorrow I'll probably bid something else.. lol.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 08:26

joker_gib, on Feb 28 2005, 08:23 AM, said:

3NT

Partner is not very strong (no 1♣ opening) and is probably only showing shape (5-5 in the blacks) so 3NT and not more seems practical :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-February-28, 08:48

Gerben47, on Feb 28 2005, 08:52 AM, said:

What would pass by partner have meant? And double?

Pass would show a boring hand (i.e. not a good 6-card spade suit, and probably not a 5-5). Double would be a penalty suggestion. 3♣ promises 5-5 in the blacks; partner probably wouldn't bid it if he had a minimum with poor clubs.

Good hand for a 2♦ transfer, eh Mark? Looking forward to April 1st ...
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Posted 2005-February-28, 09:03

joker_gib, on Feb 28 2005, 09:26 AM, said:

joker_gib, on Feb 28 2005, 08:23 AM, said:

3NT

Partner is not very strong (no 1♣ opening) and is probably only showing shape (5-5 in the blacks) so 3NT and not more seems practical :ph34r:

Partner could still have 15 points, and I only need 13 (with an ace in them) for us to have 32 combined. If partner has only 11 a pass from him was better than 3C even with 6:6. If I bid 6NT at least I showed that I trusted my partner more than I trusted LHO. If I close at 3NT and make 6 both me and my partner are going to feel more depressed than if I go down at 6NT.

3NT looks like less adventurous and more professional bid. No wonder I skipped it. :rolleyes:
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Posted 2005-February-28, 09:04

"Good hand for 2♦ transfer"

Particularly if they still bid 2♥ over it.

I'd quite like to find out if partner is max or not. Lacking the ability to do that, I think I'll make do with 3NT.
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Posted 2005-February-28, 09:22

ochinko, on Feb 28 2005, 10:03 AM, said:

3NT looks like less adventurous and more professional bid. No wonder I skipped it. :rolleyes:

More reasonnable I think as you will probably face awful breaks ! :ph34r:
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Posted 2005-February-28, 15:04

6N...science...
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Posted 2005-February-28, 15:27

I think 6NT would fail more then make, maybe still worth bidding and maybe depend on vul and scoring.
Did everyone gave up on playing heart contract because they think NT would be best or because there will be no way to convice partner that we really mean hearts ?
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Posted 2005-February-28, 16:33

mr1303, on Feb 28 2005, 08:12 AM, said:

Hi everyone

You're playing a symmetric relay system and partner opens 1S (playing strong club and 5 card majors. You hold:



2H would be NF, so you bid 2C, your relay starter. LHO overcalls 2H (yes really), and partner bids 3C, natural unbalanced.

Your bid is?

How do I continue the relay?
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Posted 2005-February-28, 17:26

We can't continue the relay after this. After 2D or double, we can relay, but intervention 2 levels up and higher, relays are off.
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Posted 2005-March-01, 11:06

Relay is not available; what is?

Do you have an ace asking bid?

what does 4♥ mean for you here?
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Posted 2005-March-01, 11:08

mr1303, on Feb 28 2005, 06:26 PM, said:

We can't continue the relay after this. After 2D or double, we can relay, but intervention 2 levels up and higher, relays are off.

I think maybe someone is exploiting a flaw in your system!
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