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Nasty Break in Slam first bid question, then play

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Posted 2005-February-23, 06:09

First question---you hold
Scoring: BAM
. You pass as dealer, LHO opens normal weak 2. Partner doubles, RHO passes and back to you--what's your choice?

Second question--you are declaring 6 now with opps quiet after the 2 bid. Dummy hits with
Scoring: BAM
so there are chances. You take the Q lead with dummy's ace, then cash the Ace to see what's happening. That rat LHO plays out, leaving RHO with Q1087. Can you make it? Have fun. :)
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Posted 2005-February-23, 06:47

Are there only 12 's in a deck of cards anymore? :) Where's the 13th??
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Posted 2005-February-23, 06:50

I bid 3, i consider this hand below partners expectations. After your RHO passes, he is either weak or has no fit. If there is no fit, your partner has wasted values in , if RHO has fit, but feels to weak, your partner is short in too. So I don't upgrade my hand for the shortage in . But it is close, change J to Q and I'll bid 4.

I don't think i can make it, so I play for minimum down. This means I down play trump any more! So I play small to the Q, A. Now I play small to ruff with my small trumps. If RHO ruffs i cain with 9 or J if not I'll use or to go to dummy to play again. If it works I'll get: 3, 2, 1, 2, 3 ruffs = 11.
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Posted 2005-February-23, 06:51

Free, on Feb 23 2005, 12:47 PM, said:

Are there only 12 's in a deck of cards anymore? :) Where's the 13th??

the 13th was given to the 2nd trick.
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Posted 2005-February-23, 06:58

Am I playing good/bad 2NT? If so I'll bid a good 3, and see what partner wants to do after that.
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Posted 2005-February-23, 08:05

Hot Shot is correct- the 13th heart was played at trick by RHO. You are not playing good/bad 2nt or lebensohl over weak two bids. Another way to phrase the question--what assumptions must you make in order to make this hand?
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Posted 2005-February-23, 08:09

hotShot, on Feb 23 2005, 08:50 AM, said:

I bid 3, i consider this hand below partners expectations.

One plays lebehnshol after 2X so 3 shows a little something (with just hearts and weak, bid 2NT then correct 3 to 3.

As to play. Yuck, but you still can make with a lot of luck. You have to catch WEST with seven spades (you didn't say if hte king fell on trick one, but if not, maybe they lead Q to show solid sequence of queen from KQ. Play three rounds of clubs, ruffing. If nothing untold happens here, your plan is to elope with your trurmps... on a hand something like this....
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Scoring: IMP


play three rounds of clubs, ruffing small. Lead a spade, ruffing however big to win the trick, if EAST ruffs with the Queen, pitch, pitch a club. For here, we assume EAST pitch a diamond. Cash three diamonds ending in dummy to reach this position.
Scoring: IMP

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Posted 2005-February-23, 10:44

Actually, the hand makes with a more prosaic distribution. If RHO is 2-5-3-3, the line goes as follows. After the K, ruff a spade in hand. K, then A and ruff a club. Now q, then to the AK You have taken 9 tricks and the hand looks like this:
Now play the Good diamond. If RHO ruffs with the 10, 8, or 7, overruff cheaply and ruff your last club with the boards K while RHO underruffs. Now you get your 12th trick over RHO. If RHO ruffs with the Q, dump your club, take the K, and you have the J9 over the 108.

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Posted 2005-February-23, 12:26

microcap, on Feb 23 2005, 12:44 PM, said:

Actually, the hand makes with a more prosaic distribution. If RHO is 2-5-3-3, the line goes as follows. After the K, ruff a spade in hand. K, then A and ruff a club. Now q, then to the AK

Yes, this is the same line when EAST is 1-5-4-3.. You will always make as long as east has 3 and 3+s. If east is 2-5-2-4 or 2-5-4-2 you have no chance (first case you can not cash your three diamonds, second case you can not ruff a cubl cheaply in dummy).
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