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You hold as dealer 3-4-2-4 shape in that order, with 12-13 HCP.
The uncontested auction commences 1C-1S-1N-2D-??
You mouse over 2H and it shows
2-3S; 4H; 2-3D; 4-5C; 12-13 HCP.
Perfect. But before committing, just out of interest, you mouse over 2S, and it shows
3S; 2-4H; 2-3D; 4-5C; 12-13 HCP.
So now, which is it to be: 2H or 2S?
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Posted 2014-June-11, 00:05
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
s
t
r-m
nd
ing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-June-11, 11:13
Without agreements I would choose 2S. As I was saying to my partner last night, supporting partner's suit is the most important thing to do.
If on the other hand I am sure that partner holding <4H but 5S would then continue with 2S to look for the spade fit, I'd pick 2H.
ahydra
If on the other hand I am sure that partner holding <4H but 5S would then continue with 2S to look for the spade fit, I'd pick 2H.
ahydra
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Posted 2014-June-11, 11:37
I think 2s is nonforcing in gibberish so if p has four hearts we might miss game if I bid 2s.
Otho 2s doesn't give unnecessary info to opps if p doesn't have hearts
Otho 2s doesn't give unnecessary info to opps if p doesn't have hearts
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Posted 2014-June-11, 12:14
Are you sure that 2H is not also non-forcing? It certainly shows a minimum 1N rebid
I guess that my real question is not what you think that you or I SHOULD do, but rather what GIB would do if sitting in that seat. Normally I would rather mimic GIB's system when partnering GIB.. Or more to the point, if departing from GIB such as to mislead opponents, I would rather do so on an informed basis.
And if one of the explanations is incorrect, it should be corrected.
I guess that my real question is not what you think that you or I SHOULD do, but rather what GIB would do if sitting in that seat. Normally I would rather mimic GIB's system when partnering GIB.. Or more to the point, if departing from GIB such as to mislead opponents, I would rather do so on an informed basis.
And if one of the explanations is incorrect, it should be corrected.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-June-11, 12:39
We've had this conversation before, but I can't find it. There should be a clear agreement as to what to bid with 3S and 4H, so either a 2♠ bid denies 4H or a 2♥ bid denies 4S. Maybe last time I started this conversation in the General Bridge section, wanting to see what most folks thought was better, independent of the GIB conversation.
Yup, that's what happened: http://www.bridgebas...sponses-to-nmf/
Yup, that's what happened: http://www.bridgebas...sponses-to-nmf/
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Posted 2014-June-11, 12:48
Yes the question posed in that thread is subtly different because there opener had a maximum 1N rebid. But it is still relevant.
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. m
str-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees."Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-June-14, 18:56
Because I wanna to get clear definitions of bids,I would play modified two way stayman by Grant Baze and xyz ,never play nmf,even I know NMF convention is a milestone in the bridge bidding system.
NMF have been out of fashion,it is impossible for players to have a clearer bidding system if go on to play NMF.
NMF have been out of fashion,it is impossible for players to have a clearer bidding system if go on to play NMF.
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