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2♥ should be forcing to the best of my knowledge. It seems not since GIB N shouldn't be stuck for a rebid.
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Is this somehow non-forcing?
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Posted 2014-May-25, 23:38
2♥ should be forcing to the best of my knowledge. It seems not since GIB N shouldn't be stuck for a rebid.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 03:49
If really so,it seems that Gib plays negative free bid,but I have no idea.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 05:26
Well, the alert for 2♥ said 11+ HCP, so I think it's not NFB.
3♥ is 15+ with rebiddable hearts, btw.
3♥ is 15+ with rebiddable hearts, btw.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 06:53
It would never occur to me that 2♥ could be passed, or that 3♥ was forcing and natural.
Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 06:54
It is forcing but GIB apparently has no rule that prevents it from passing forcing bids. Possibly 2!s would deny three hearts while the hand is somehow not suitable for 3!h, maybe it denies six spades or maybe the hand is a tweener between 3!h and 4!h.
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When nothing fits, it passes by default.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 07:09
I know it passes when stuck for a rebid, but I was sure either 2♠ or 3♥ would be the book bid. It has a minimum with support and its own suit to rebid, surely something fits.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 11:44
It was embarrassed about its opening bid. Almost a human trait.
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Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
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2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
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Posted 2014-May-26, 21:28
I should've told it I'm proud of it for opening this hand at the 1-level 
Good call IMO.
Good call IMO.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 02:27
Antrax, on 2014-May-25, 23:38, said:
2♥ should be forcing to the best of my knowledge. It seems not since GIB N shouldn't be stuck for a rebid.
2♥ is non-forcing indeed on the Gib CC.
You should jump bid 3♥,that is just a forcing auction.
Now here is a example hand which I have given special attention to .
Here Gib CC at below:
2♣=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♦=good support,3-card ♠,limited raise or better.
2♥=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♠=as we know,it is a constructive raise.
2nt=2♠,9-11 hcp.
3♣=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♣,14+ total points
3♦=4♠,limited raise or better
3♥=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♥,14+ total points
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Posted 2014-May-27, 02:41
lycier, on 2014-May-27, 02:27, said:
2♥ is non-forcing indeed on the Gib CC.
You should jump bid 3♥,that is just a forcing auction.
Now here is a example hand which I have given special attention to .
Here Gib CC at below:
2♣=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♦=good support,3-card ♠,limited raise or better.
2♥=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♠=as we know,it is a constructive raise.
2nt=2♠,9-11 hcp.
3♣=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♣,14+ total points
3♦=4♠,limited raise or better
3♥=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♥,14+ total points
You should jump bid 3♥,that is just a forcing auction.
Now here is a example hand which I have given special attention to .
Here Gib CC at below:
2♣=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♦=good support,3-card ♠,limited raise or better.
2♥=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♠=as we know,it is a constructive raise.
2nt=2♠,9-11 hcp.
3♣=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♣,14+ total points
3♦=4♠,limited raise or better
3♥=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♥,14+ total points
Except this situation is different from that- the example is free bid (negative) over an overcall and this is a free bid (positive or negative) over an opening bid.
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Posted 2014-May-30, 07:47
lycier, on 2014-May-27, 02:27, said:
2♥ is non-forcing indeed on the Gib CC.
You should jump bid 3♥,that is just a forcing auction.
Now here is a example hand which I have given special attention to .
Here Gib CC at below:
2♣=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♦=good support,3-card ♠,limited raise or better.
2♥=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♠=as we know,it is a constructive raise.
2nt=2♠,9-11 hcp.
3♣=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♣,14+ total points♥
3♦=4♠,limited raise or better
3♥=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♥,14+ total points
You should jump bid 3♥,that is just a forcing auction.
Now here is a example hand which I have given special attention to .
Here Gib CC at below:
2♣=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♦=good support,3-card ♠,limited raise or better.
2♥=5+,9-13 total points (so I guess it is non-forcing.)
2♠=as we know,it is a constructive raise.
2nt=2♠,9-11 hcp.
3♣=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♣,14+ total points♥
3♦=4♠,limited raise or better
3♥=2-♠,twice rebiddable ♥,14+ total points
like cloa513
the example was after an overcallaccording to the posted GIB CC (which admittedly has errors in it) GIB plays weak jump shifts in competition.
But even if 2♥ is NF forcing GI is worth a sporting raise to 3♥
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