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Posted 2014-May-25, 22:19

Does some mention of heart (EDIT:length holding) belong in the description of the 4♥ bid?

This post has been edited by Bbradley62: 2014-May-26, 09:37

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Posted 2014-May-26, 04:42

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-May-25, 22:19, said:

Does some mention of heart length belong in the description of the 4♥ bid?



Great achievement for it to cue in any way.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 09:35

Agreed. I had to look at the 4♥ explanation, since my initial reaction was "wtf?" I still don't like the jumping response to RKC showing a void, but I seem to be in a small minority on this. My plan was to ask for ♠K if GIB replied 5♦, to get to 7N, but this was IMPs, so 7♣ was fine.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 11:47

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-May-26, 09:35, said:

I still don't like the jumping response to RKC showing a void, but I seem to be in a small minority on this.


I don't know how this is measured, but count me in that minority.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 03:08

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-May-26, 09:35, said:

Agreed. I had to look at the 4♥ explanation, since my initial reaction was "wtf?" I still don't like the jumping response to RKC showing a void, but I seem to be in a small minority on this. My plan was to ask for ♠K if GIB replied 5♦, to get to 7N, but this was IMPs, so 7♣ was fine.


This is a normal auction,as we know that Gib never play exclusion,this hand showed Gib play mini-splinter convention.
So in other words,this is just an option to the bidding gadgets,only.
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Posted 2014-November-27, 11:05

This is an hand where if void is not signalled (4♣ instead 4♥) you can have information of void : 4NT ? 5 ♦=1 keycard with RKB0314 (to prefer if trump is clubs) 5 ♥ ? for Queen 5 NT yes with a void .. as i have indicated in (see) "RKC 0314".(Lovera)
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Posted 2014-November-27, 19:30

But both auctions (the actual one and the one suggested by Lucera) prevent me from asking for kings, unless North would prioritize showing the ♠K over the ♥void if he held both.

But, the primary purpose of this thread was to request an improvement in the explanation that GIB provides for 4♥.
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Posted 2014-December-01, 09:10

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-November-27, 19:30, said:

But both auctions (the actual one and the one suggested by Lucera) prevent me from asking for kings, unless North would prioritize showing the ♠K over the ♥void if he held both.

But, the primary purpose of this thread was to request an improvement in the explanation that GIB provides for 4♥.

You can have information about King bidding directly 6 ♠=have the King ? If positive N bids 6 NT(=i have the King of spade at any aside) otherwise 7♣ denies the King. Only so you can have the information to use in subsequent contract level (i. e. 6NT of N to play 7NT)
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