[straube]

You are South and third seat. Favorable. Imps

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[straube]

Z-T bids this...

1C-1D 16+, 0-7
1H-1S artificial stronger, second negative
2H-4H natural nf, game

[straube]

Curious if awm considers this North worth a semipositive. Thinking yes. If so, my bidding would go...

1C-1H 16+, 5-10 w/ 4+ spades
1S-1N asking, 2+ clubs
2C-2D GF, bal
2H-3S asking, 4342 and 2-3 QPs
4D-4H terminator, forced
P

If not, then...

1C-1D 16+, 0-4 or 9+
1N-2D 5+H and not 4S, 0-4 and 2-3 hearts
2H-3H to play, invite
4H

[akhare]

Meckwell-Lite:

1♣ - 1♦ (16+; 0-7)
1♥ - 2♦ (Natural F1; 5-7 with 3 card support)
4♥

Note that responder can bid 2♠ over a 2♥ rebid to show 4♠ - 3♥.

Edit: Corrected auction as per chasetb's feedback. The correct auction would go:

1♣ - 1♦ (16+; 0-7)
1♥ - 1♠ (Natural F1; natural F1)
1N - 2♥ (Natural; 3 ♥, max)
4♥

[whereagles]

Using my pet two-way pass:

pass 1♣
1♥ 2♥
4♥

pass = 0-8 or 15+
1♣ = 0-8 or 15+
1♥ = natural, 5 cards and 15-20
2♥ = natural weakish raise 5-7 total points


Note that natural works good here as well:

1♥ 2♥
4♥

[Free]

akhare, on 2014-May-08, 20:29, said:

1♣ - 1♦ (16+; 0-7)
1♥ - 2♦ (Natural F1; 5-7 with 3 card support)
4♥

Same here (obviously, our system is based on Meckwell)

[rbforster]

Silent Club:

1♣-1♦ strong; most non-GF
1♠-1N min 2 suiter (art); ask for long suit
2♥-3♥ 5 hearts; 5-7 invite raise
4♥

I suppose North could bid 2N instead of 3♥ given his flat shape and good spots (leading to 3N), but 4♥ seems normal.

[yunling]

1♥(11-20 5+♥)-1♠(various, F1)
1NT(♠ or 15+)-2♥(nat weak)
3♣(nat GF)-4♥

[awm]

1♣ (16+) - 1♥ (spades)
1♠ (rel) - 1nt (bal/three-suited/diams)
2♣ (GF relay) - 2♦ (balanced/three-suited)
2♥ (relay) - 3♥ (4342)
4♦ (to s/o) - 4♥
Pass

No reason to look for slam over 3♥, since 4342 hand is limited to 5-8 hcp.

[PrecisionL]

C3: Copious Canape Club

1♣ - 1♦ (0-7) -
1♥ (4+♥ or balanced 20+) - 2♦ (3-cd ♥ & 5-7 hcp) -
3♦ (help suit G.I.) - 4♥ p p p

[Lord Molyb]

I'm almost ashamed to say it, but in my Molybdenum system north opens 1♦.

1♦ - 2♥
3♥ - 4♥

1♦ = 0-10, 4+ diamonds
2♥ = Very nearly forcing, nat

[Kungsgeten]

Pass 2000

North "opens" with a forcing pass:

pass-1♣; [0--7 or 17+; 0--7 or 17+]
1♦-2♥; [0--7; 17--19 unbal with 5+ hearts and 0--3 spades]
3♥-4♥;

Dubbelklubba (Swedish Club)

1♣-1♦; [11--13 bal or 17+; 0--7 or 8--11 bal with no 4 card major nor 5 card minor]
1♥-1♠; [3--4 hearts if weak, 4+ hearts if 17--19; 4+ spades, 0--7]
2♣-3♥; [5+ hearts; natural]
4♥

[DinDIP]

Modified SCAMP

1♣-1♦ . . . 16+; 0-7
1♥-2♠ . . . good 19+, any; 5-7 BAL, at least one 4M
2N-3♣ . . . relay; 4S+4m
3♦-3♥ . . . relay; 4D
3♠-4♣ . . . relay; 4-3-4-2
4♥

Opener could bid 3♠ (=0-1S) over 2♠ or even just 4♥ if he didn't want to relay.

David

[antonylee]

Polish: 1C-1D[various]; 1H[WNT better major or 15-17 4H5+C or 18-20 5+H]-1S[4.5-6, 4+]; 2H[18-20 5+H]-3H; 4H.

[Siegmund]

If E-W pass, Unassuming Club (and variations thereon) probably bid a boring 1C-1D, 2H-3H, 4H. Some old-fashioned Polish Clubbers might too.

Is ANY E-W going to pass, rather than having it start 1C-(1S)-P-(2S)?

[jack502]

didn't manage to bid game on this one.

1♣ 1♠(negative 0-2 qp)
2♦ (transfer) 3♥ 3+ hearts 5-7 limit
pass

It thought it was pretty close to bidding 4♥ score was 3♥139 4♥113

[chasetb]

akhare, on 2014-May-08, 20:29, said:

Meckwell-Lite:

1♣ - 1♦ (16+; 0-7)
1♥ - 2♦ (Natural F1; 5-7 with 3 card support)
4♥

Note that responder can bid 2♠ over a 2♥ rebid to show 4♠ - 3♥.

Would you really not want to bid 1♠ on the second round? Give partner a 4♥ and 5-6♣ hand (not the most common, but that is my kind of luck), and we should be stopping at the two level.

With my example, our 2♦ bid shoots down that possibility, especially if the auction will go 1♣ - 1♦ ; 1♥ - 2♦ ; 2♥ - 2♠ a majority of the time.

EDIT - My auction would go 1♣ - 1♦ ; 1♥ - 1♠; 1NT - 2♥ (maximum with 4♠-3♥); 4♥

[benlessard]

1H-2H (11-14 or 18-22 unb, 3-7 pts)
2NT-3NT (18-22, max [4333]
4H

or

1C-1H (15+, 4S w or GF)
1NT-pass (15-20 many shapes)

I tend to downgrade my stiff K more than most players so I might see the hand as 15-17.

[Zelandakh]

I hate singleton kings more than anything else. Still, seems clear to open this hand 1♣ and treat it as 18-20. It seems to me that all roads are going to lead to 4♥ on this hand regardless of system (computers excepted anyway).

P - 1♣ = 15-17 nat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1♦ = most non-GF hands
1♥ = 18-20 any or 23+ bal
... - 1♠ = most hands
2♥ = 5+ hearts, 18-20
... - 4♥

[akhare]

chasetb, on 2014-May-26, 12:54, said:

Would you really not want to bid 1♠ on the second round? Give partner a 4♥ and 5-6♣ hand (not the most common, but that is my kind of luck), and we should be stopping at the two level.

With my example, our 2♦ bid shoots down that possibility, especially if the auction will go 1♣ - 1♦ ; 1♥ - 2♦ ; 2♥ - 2♠ a majority of the time.

EDIT - My auction would go 1♣ - 1♦ ; 1♥ - 1♠; 1NT - 2♥ (maximum with 4♠-3♥); 4♥

Good catch -- will fix the auction.