[the hog]

Cyberyeti, on 2014-May-09, 18:00, said:

Depends on your agreements, 1♠ is in system and quite normal on a 4 card suit with a decent hand for us, I'd just like the ♠10 as well, as whereagles says 2♦ over 1♥ is a major spanner in the works, and we are much less disciplined with 2♦ over 1♥ than we are with 2♣.

Here we go again. Look, I have a friend and for him a 4D bid shows this EXACT hand, even down to the spot cards! Seriously who cares what YOU play in your pd? The op wants to know what is going on here. Fwiw in my pd I might bid a Polish NT, but this is the very worst hand I would have for this bid at this vulnerability, and no one in this thread cares anyway. 2D is off with the Nucklaveys and 1S on this poor suit is a little better but not much.

Regarding a 3H bid - I regard this as a minor error. Sure the hand is nice and the 7th H is equivalent to the missing K required for a 3H bid, however the fact that I have a void in partner's S suit argues for a downgrade. Partner will usually have something in S. For someone to state that 3H is absurd, suggests that person does not understand hand evaluation.Mind you, my comment applies to the auction 1H (P) 1S etc., not the actual auction.

[Cyberyeti]

the hog, on 2014-May-09, 22:43, said:

Here we go again. Look, I have a friend and for him a 4D bid shows this EXACT hand, even down to the spot cards! Seriously who cares what YOU play in your pd? The op wants to know what is going on here. Fwiw in my pd I might bid a Polish NT, but this is the very worst hand I would have for this bid at this vulnerability, and no one in this thread cares anyway. 2D is off with the Nucklaveys and 1S on this poor suit is a little better but not much.

Regarding a 3H bid - I regard this as a minor error. Sure the hand is nice and the 7th H is equivalent to the missing K required for a 3H bid, however the fact that I have a void in partner's S suit argues for a downgrade. Partner will usually have something in S. For someone to state that 3H is absurd, suggests that person does not understand hand evaluation.Mind you, my comment applies to the auction 1H (P) 1S etc., not the actual auction.

The OP does not quote a system, what I play is part of a wide range of agreements in this situation and it's not uncommon over here to overcall at the one level with 4 and make the more exclusive overcalls more wide ranging than the less exclusive ones, although our treatment is fairly extreme. If he wanted a precise set to be used, he'd have quoted that. I don't know what "box" 2♦ fits in as far as the overcalling pair is concerned, minimum 8 count ? minimum 13 count ?

[the hog]

I am the last person to object to 4 card overcalls, however you need a suit and it needs to have a purpose. (1H) 1S takes away no room and secondly, KJxx is not a suit.

[Cyberyeti]

the hog, on 2014-May-10, 04:29, said:

I am the last person to object to 4 card overcalls, however you need a suit and it needs to have a purpose. (1H) 1S takes away no room and secondly, KJxx is not a suit.

I'm not passing, can't X then 2♦, so have to decide which less than ideal bid to make, as I said, I'd prefer a better spade suit but wasn't dealt one, nor was I dealt a real diamond suit.

[Cyberyeti]

the hog, on 2014-May-10, 04:29, said:

I am the last person to object to 4 card overcalls, however you need a suit and it needs to have a purpose. (1H) 1S takes away no room and secondly, KJxx is not a suit.

Apparently Rodwell is with me:

Board 24 of the current finals he overcalled 1♥ over 1♦ with

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and earned a game swing in.

[PhilKing]

All of West's calls were immaculate. All the other players made calls that were either inferior or inept.

[Vampyr]

Hanoi5, on 2014-May-09, 16:18, said:

Is this totally correct? Let's say I take 25 seconds for EVERY call and play (robotic style), can the opps call the Director when I take the usual 25 seconds? I suppose not. However the fact is that this North takes her time in most difficult situations and of course you might be able to distinguish between 25 normal and 30 abnormal. Should the Director take that into consiferation? Should the Director ALWAYS find North guilty because of the usual style? When can North be given the benefit of the doubt?

Every single call and play? Probably you will not be deemed to be passing UI. This is not really relevant.

[blackshoe]

If your normal tempo is 25 seconds, a director who rules that your partner has UI either doesn't believe that's your normal tempo, or he's incompetent. OTOH, a ruling that your normal tempo unduly delays the game is another kettle of fish.